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[enoch1]

Hi All,

I've thoroughly examined each topic on cortisol topic after conducting a search on the forum.

I;m trying to reduce my Cortisol Level I notice I can become easily stressed plus anxiety which follows also, I've been looking at finding something that is effective in controlling cortisol.
Considering the following supplements please correct me if any of them have no effect on Cortisol

*Ashwagandha
*L-Theanine
*Vitamin B complex
Zinc & Magnesium
Ginkgo/Bacopa
EPA/DHA
Vitamin C

Would Source Natural GABA be an effective cortisol combating/anxiety supplement I've been reading GABA doesn't cross the BBB but there are reviews on Iherb which individuals feel relaxed ? I know of Picamilon, but would Source Natural GABA be effective enough people have been mentioning of it working.

I really want something to target my Cortisol is there anything that can help reduce it ?

Thanks in advance

[elicar]

Do you want to reduce cortisol or the anxiety that precedes/follows it ? 1 Gram of vit c will reduce cortisol when there's a cortisol spike (like after weight training or in the morning) but i'm sure it has no anxiolytic effect whatsoever.It's not always a cause and effect relationship.
On the other hand,if you take something with a calming effect it might also lower cortisol but making you feel relaxed doesn't necessarily mean cortisol is reduced (sometimes it could mean the exact opposite).

[enoch1]

Definitely want to target Cortisol as I know how to control anxiety. I want to target Cortisol cause when I get stressed I become so forgetful !!! I'm looking at http://getds.com/FAQ-s/lean-xtreme-faq Lean Xtreme which contains 5-AT (5-Etioallocholen-3b,7b,17b-tiol), 7OH (3b,7b-dihydroxy-5-Etioallocholen-17-one) or http://www.nutraplan...s-c-120-ml.html are these product overhyped ?

Edited by enoch1, 01 May 2011 - 04:43 AM.

[Sciolaro]

Get grounded: http://www.earthingi..._study_2004.pdf

[nootrope]

Ashwagandha, which you mention is great. Another supplement that reduces cortisol levels is Relora, which uses magnolia bark.

[Thorsten3]

Cortisol is vital for our wellbeing and without it you'd feel very unwell and shitty. Remember it's just doing its job in response to percieved stressful situations.
You sound like you're depressed my freind, I'd sort this out with proper tools and not waste your time with what's been mentioned so far in this thread. If you are getting stressed, suffering with rumminating thoughts and overreacting to stuff then you probably have low serotonin situation (which is actually just another sympton of the depressive disorder itself). You may not like to hear that though? Have you ever considered before that you might be depressed?

If it was me I'd forget about this cortisol obsession and try to deal with the situation more towards the core. Something serotonergic to sort out the depression and if this goes well then the cortisol won't be doing damage anymore because you'll no longer be stressed.

I just take SJW every day. SJW makes me happy. Try Perika if you can or even Kira, don't bother with anything else with SJW because it's better to stick to labels that actaully have studies behind them. I also use Lithium Orotate with my SJW and this is a great supplement for chilling your brain the fuck out. If you are obsessive about cortisol SJW is even dose dependant in reducing cortisol (higher doses reduce cortisol, whereas lower doses do the opposite).

Have a read of this thread: http://www.mindandmu...__1#entry601643

Edited by Thorsten, 01 May 2011 - 04:55 PM.

[Lufega]

relora works good. Might even lose a pound or two.

[J. Galt]

Other supplements to lower cortisol:

Phosphatidylserine
Banaba Leaf Extract (standardized for corisolic acid)
Borage Oil (lowers cortisol, according to Dr. Perricone)
Fish Oil

Relora works almost too well as it makes me sleepy every time I use it.

Lithium orotate might also work. Just a theory, but I suspect that the NE inhibition will also lower cortisol release downstream.

Pregnenalone may also lower cortisol, but runs the risk of having the opposite effect under certain circumstances (the science was confusing and I haven't pursued it in depth).

Finally, I suspect that most adaptogens will help in cases where it is already elevated, as they thend to exert a normalizing effect on most hormones.

[Nooby]

Lithium orotate might also work. Just a theory, but I suspect that the NE inhibition will also lower cortisol release downstream.

Sorry to be thick but would you mind clarifying what you mean by 'downstream'

[Logan]

Holy Basil-no better product than New Chapter's holy basil supercritical extract

[1kgcoffee]

Also phosphatidylserine and passionflower.

[OneScrewLoose]

Methylene Blue doesn't reduce cortisol but reduces cortisol binding to its receptor sites. Click here

Cortisol is vital for our wellbeing and without it you'd feel very unwell and shitty. Remember it's just doing its job in response to percieved stressful situations.
You sound like you're depressed my freind, I'd sort this out with proper tools and not waste your time with what's been mentioned so far in this thread. If you are getting stressed, suffering with rumminating thoughts and overreacting to stuff then you probably have low serotonin situation (which is actually just another sympton of the depressive disorder itself). You may not like to hear that though? Have you ever considered before that you might be depressed?

If it was me I'd forget about this cortisol obsession and try to deal with the situation more towards the core. Something serotonergic to sort out the depression and if this goes well then the cortisol won't be doing damage anymore because you'll no longer be stressed.

I just take SJW every day. SJW makes me happy. Try Perika if you can or even Kira, don't bother with anything else with SJW because it's better to stick to labels that actaully have studies behind them. I also use Lithium Orotate with my SJW and this is a great supplement for chilling your brain the fuck out. If you are obsessive about cortisol SJW is even dose dependant in reducing cortisol (higher doses reduce cortisol, whereas lower doses do the opposite).

Have a read of this thread: http://www.mindandmu...__1#entry601643

Isn't it a bit of a jump to assume he has depression just because he's investigating cortisol levels? Not to say your wrong, but maybe you should ask some questions first.

Edited by OneScrewLoose, 05 May 2011 - 05:29 PM.

[rvogels1]

Phosphatidylserine has been the most effective cortisol regulator for me. It's fine to regulate it, too. Cortisol is the main mediator of the stress response and it is notorious for being a classic example of an older evolutionary adaptation turning into a detriment for modern humans. Psychological stress engages the HPA axis (hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal) just like physical stressors, which in modern psychologically distressed societies often causes people to pack on weight around their hips and in their face, as well as have memory impairments. The hippocampi are loaded with cortisol receptors, too, as is the case with our leukocytes, among many other cells of course. The point is just to say that cortisol can and should be regulated (not over-regulated!). Psychological distress doesn't need this kind of physical response, but it can't help producing this negative response because it's just wired up that way thanks to evolution.

If you take PS, don't take more than 100 mg a day. I mean, this is up to you I guess, but PS regulates cortisol rapidly and you can overdo it, which would lead to fatigue. I don't even take 100 mg a day. I dose with PS every third day or so.

[rwac]

Pregnenalone may also lower cortisol, but runs the risk of having the opposite effect under certain circumstances (the science was confusing and I haven't pursued it in depth).

I've found 50mg Pregnenolone pretty helpful. It definitely makes me more relaxed.

[Thorsten3]

Methylene Blue doesn't reduce cortisol but reduces cortisol binding to its receptor sites. Click here

Cortisol is vital for our wellbeing and without it you'd feel very unwell and shitty. Remember it's just doing its job in response to percieved stressful situations.
You sound like you're depressed my freind, I'd sort this out with proper tools and not waste your time with what's been mentioned so far in this thread. If you are getting stressed, suffering with rumminating thoughts and overreacting to stuff then you probably have low serotonin situation (which is actually just another sympton of the depressive disorder itself). You may not like to hear that though? Have you ever considered before that you might be depressed?

If it was me I'd forget about this cortisol obsession and try to deal with the situation more towards the core. Something serotonergic to sort out the depression and if this goes well then the cortisol won't be doing damage anymore because you'll no longer be stressed.

I just take SJW every day. SJW makes me happy. Try Perika if you can or even Kira, don't bother with anything else with SJW because it's better to stick to labels that actaully have studies behind them. I also use Lithium Orotate with my SJW and this is a great supplement for chilling your brain the fuck out. If you are obsessive about cortisol SJW is even dose dependant in reducing cortisol (higher doses reduce cortisol, whereas lower doses do the opposite).

Have a read of this thread: http://www.mindandmu...__1#entry601643

Isn't it a bit of a jump to assume he has depression just because he's investigating cortisol levels? Not to say your wrong, but maybe you should ask some questions first.

Think I'm going to chime in here and look out for my good buddy thorsten who actually brings up a good point and a new way of looking at the situation (nothing wrong with that at all my freind).

BTW, did you even read the first paragraph? I'd say being highly reactive to stressful situations and having bad anxiety are symptons of depression for sure. No offence but do you know what depression even is? I think thorsten was probably just probing this in an effort to get the OP to think about his situation - maybe he is depressed? It was just something to think about I guess.
If you posted this thread over at M&M they would laugh at you. Just lowering cortisol? It really isn't that simple. The stress response is highly complex and I'd personally recommend the OP go over there as there seems to be a lot more vibrancy over there especially in respect to helping people with their mood disorders. They are very well educated on the HPA axis and its disruption. Over here people are more preocupied with longevity so it's just something to bear in mind for the OP.

Edited by HyperHydrosis, 13 May 2011 - 09:24 AM.

[kurdishfella]

dont reduce cortisol too much, you need some of it to be smart and motivated.