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[JvA]

Hi!

I was reading through the Nutritional Supplement Guide by Life Extension and found something odd. According to the guide, good phosphorus sources are milk, hard cheese, yogurt, eggs, canned fish, chicken, red meat, walnuts, almonds and wheat germ.

I eat plenty of milk, cheese, yogurt, eggs, chicken and red meat, still my blood tests shows deficiency in phosphorus. What am I doing wrong? Am I deficient in some other vitamins or minerals, making my body unable to store phosphorus?

Should I supplement with something like phosphatidyl serine to increase my stores?

Recent blood tests show no sign of problems with my kidneys or liver.

Please help!

[Bonee]

you get plenty of phosphorus whatever you it, virtually there phosphate in everything which is living or lived, but most grains contain it in a non bioavalible form, but other things contain a plenty of it.
there is absolutely no need to supplement it,
what you suggesting phosphatidyl serine is got a phosphate content below 1% , it is used for other benefits althought

[Luminosity]

Is this a legitimate blood test? I'm skeptical. I'd get a second opinion from a good medical doctor.

[JvA]

Thanks Bonee and Luminosity for your answers!

Yes, the blood test is legitimate and done by a respected German lab. The lab didn't comment on the phosphorus deficiency at all, allthough present. They did just comment on the copper, magnesium and omega 3 deficiency. Perhaps the phosphorus solves itself when i get the copper, magnesium and omega 3 in check?

The comment I got about the three deficiencies were:
* Copper: most Swedish men have some deficiency in this. Your deficiency is probably caused by your dextroamphetamine medication and coffee intake, as copper is needed to produce neurotransmitters like dopamin and norepinephrine.
* Magnesium: very common. Possibly causes: stress, high coffee consumption and your medication.
* Omega 3: eat more fish or take fish oil capsules.

[Luminosity]

Was the test ordered by a good M.D? What does a good M.D. think of the test?

It sounds like coffee is not your friend.

[JvA]

Was the test ordered by a good M.D? What does a good M.D. think of the test?

It sounds like coffee is not your friend.

The test was a general test for testing for mineral deficiencies and fat (omega 3, 6, AA, you name it) status. It was not ordered by a doctor. I did some extensive research before chosing a private clinic that performs the test. The test was conducted by a specialized nurse and evaluated by a professor/M.D. The comments aboce was from him.

The GP I normally see said that he didn't think it was of any real concern, but suggested we test my liver, kidney and copper levels to make sure I don't posion myself by supplementing with 3 mg copper.

I don't know what to make of it, as there are no rating of doctors or anything like that, as far as I know, here in Sweden. It's extremely hard to know if the doctor you're seeing is good in what he/she does, and a general thumb of rule is to research the condition yourself before seeing a doctor. An extreme case of where it can go really wrong is my girlfriend. She had to see 10+ doctors the last 8 years before finding someone who quickly realized that all her pain was from Ehlers-Danlos-Syndrome.

What I'm trying to say is that the quality of the knowledge of the M.Ds can vary a lot here. :-/

[Luminosity]

By good M.D. I meant a normal one, not a quack. A quack is what we call one who is a lot worse than the normal ones and orders tests and treatments that are no good. It sounds like you looked into the phosphorus thing as much as possible for now. You can always just try to live well, eat well and not take too much sugar, caffeine, alcohol, etc. Too much of anything can be bad. Living in harmony with nature and listening to your body is usually good.

Not all medical tests are accurate. Not all labs are trustworthy. I don't know much about the lab you used but you can't take for granted that labs and tests are accurate.

Edited by Luminosity, 03 March 2012 - 02:15 AM.