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Ayahuasca and the Kingdom of the Heavens according to Jesus

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#1 LeonardElijah

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 03:04 AM


What is ayahuasca? It is the closest thing to an Out Of Body experience you will ever have.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Psychonaut/comments/o8rw5/ayahuasca_analogues_pharmahuasca_and_why_you/

The 'spirit' or essence of an Ayahuasca style experience is extremely cathartic. We have all experienced great breakthroughs throughout our tripping, and we know that the expanded awareness of ourselves can show us our faults and fixes. Ayahuasca plays that game on a totally different level. It will, with the tenderness of a lover, lay you bare and show you more of yourself then you might ever want to see, then it will help you heal. It will do the same for your life, for reality, for everything. As far as I am concerned an Ayahuasca experience is the greatest and most wondrous experience available to us. I cannot urge any of you who genuinely seek expansion and progress to try this strongly enough.


For context, here is artwork by a native ayahuasca drinker using it for medicine:
http://www.scribd.co...-Pablo-Amaringo

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Notice the snake with a human head.

The band Tool has a song with a similar theme.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeXCm9-OoXw

What's coming through is alive
What's holding up is a mirror
What's singing songs is a snake
Looking to turn my piss to wine
They're totally void of hate
Killing me just the same
.....
And the snake is drowned and
As I look in his eyes,
My fear begins to fade
Recalling all of those times.
I could have cried then.
I should have cried then.
And as the walls come down and
As I look in your eyes
My fear begins to fade
Recalling all of the times
I have died
and will die.
It's all right.
I don't mind.

The band is addressing the theme of personal growth with ayahuasca. "recalling all of the times I could have cried" is about working through past memories. "all of the times I have died" is seeing your past lives. "I feel this coming over like a storm again" address the nature of purging on ayahuasca, where you vomit it up.

Through and through, it's a song about the nature of change on ayahuasca using the themes of a snake and a mirror into yourself.

Next, another song about ayahuasca, which poetically refers to the idea of an evolution in consciousness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tja6_h4lT6A

I've been crawling on my belly
Clearing out what could've been.
I've been wallowing in my own chaotic
And insecure delusions.
I wanna feel the change consume me,
Feel the outside turning in.
I wanna feel the metamorphosis and
Cleansing I've endured within
My shadow
Change is coming.
Now is my time.
Listen to my muscle memory.
Contemplate what I've been clinging to.
Forty-six and two ahead of me.

Hold with me.

This is compatible with Jesus says about the Kingdom of the Heavens in Matthew 13.
http://www.biblegate... 13&version=NIV

The transformation of a human in the Kingdom of the Heavens is like leaven in bread.
The Kingdom of the Heavens is like a pearl, where you will give up all possessions to purchase this one pearl.

It's also compatible with the parable of the weeds. Some people on ayahusca visit hell worlds. In those hell worlds they are forced to address things they would prefer not to address. In some sense, a part of you is purified like silver as another part of you is eliminated in the fire.

Matthew 13:29 “‘No,’ he answered, ‘because while you are pulling the weeds, you may uproot the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.’”


In Mark 9:49, Jesus says that EVERYONE will be salted with fire.

On ayahuasca, everyone goes through a form of purification.

Sooooo.....

What do you think, is it possible for ayahuasca to be compatible with what we know about the kingdom of the heavens?

I can keep going on through all the parables. Some of them don't even make sense without this being the case. "Every one will receive their treasure. To those who have, more will be given. Those who already lack will receive nothing."

-Leo (the Lion) of Judah

Edited by LeonardElijah, 17 April 2012 - 03:28 AM.


#2 mikeinnaples

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 12:51 PM

Tool is my favorite band, but did you REALLY just use their lyrics for your post?

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 12:52 PM

Some more of Maynard James Keenan's lyrics to make my point: (from APC)

You're such an inspiration for the ways
That I'll never ever choose to be
Oh so many ways for me to show you
How the savior has abandoned you
Fuck your God
Your Lord, your Christ
He did this
Took all you had and
Left you this way
Still you pray, you never stray
Never taste of the fruit
You never thought to question why

It's not like you killed someone
It's not like you drove a hateful spear into his side
Praise the one who left you
Broken down and paralyzed
He did it all for you
He did it all for you

Oh so many ways for me to show you
How your dogma has abandoned you
Pray to your Christ, to your god
Never taste of the fruit
Never stray, never break
Never---choke on a lie
Even though he's the one who did this to you
You never thought to question why

Not like you killed someone
It's Not like you drove a spiteful spear into his side
Talk to Jesus Christ
As if he knows the reasons why
He did it all for you
Did it all for you
He did it all for you

Edited by mikeinnaples, 17 April 2012 - 12:53 PM.


#4 mikeinnaples

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 04:01 PM

The same Maynard James Keenan that created a uproar on the internet when too many people believed his April's fools joke about 'finding jesus'. :)

#5 LeonardElijah

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Posted 17 April 2012 - 09:52 PM

The same Maynard James Keenan that created a uproar on the internet when too many people believed his April's fools joke about 'finding jesus'. :)


Link or story please!
I'm prepared to believe he did.

Edit: From Wikipedia

On April 1, 2005, the official Tool website announced, as an April Fools' Day prank, that "Maynard has found Jesus" and would be abandoning the recording of the new album temporarily and possibly permanently.[81] Kurt Loder of MTV contacted Keenan via email to ask for a confirmation and received a nonchalant confirmation. When Loder asked again, Keenan's response was simply "heh heh".[82] On April 7, the official site revealed that it was a hoax.[83]



FANTASTIC!
10,000 Days is alllllllllllllllllllll about finding Jesus.

Edited by LeonardElijah, 17 April 2012 - 09:54 PM.


#6 mikeinnaples

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:06 PM

10,000 Days is alllllllllllllllllllll about finding Jesus.


Umm, no.

#7 LeonardElijah

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Posted 18 April 2012 - 05:05 PM

Umm, no.


Not yet. :)

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Posted 25 July 2021 - 10:46 PM

Those drugs just show you what you wanna see. For example a person took it and saw jesus as black and now he goes around saying that. But middle eastern are much  closer to european whites genetically and culturally so he was caucasian. 


Edited by kurdishfella, 25 July 2021 - 10:47 PM.






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