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Posted 25 March 2005 - 06:52 PM


http://www.newscient...le.ns?id=dn7198

Radical report supports baby sex selection
17:37 24 March 2005
NewScientist.com news service
Shaoni Bhattacharya


Parents undergoing fertility treatment should be allowed to choose the sex of their baby for "family balancing", says a radical report by the UK parliament's committee on science and technology.

The controversial document makes many other bold suggestions on human reproductive technologies. It does not rule out human reproductive cloning in the future; it backs the use of human-animal hybrid embryos for research; and it challenges the UK government's intention to strip the anonymity from future sperm and egg donors.

"It's a very liberal and far-thinking report - that is what has caused the controversy," says Peter Braude, chairman of the science committee of the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists, and a former member of the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority (HFEA), the UK's regulatory body.

The report makes "bold and challenging" recommendations, says Suzi Leather, chair of the HFEA. But she adds: "The acid test for this report will be how well it deals with the public's concerns."

Pro-life groups hit out at the report - endorsed by just half of the 10-member committee of MPs. "There is absolutely no way that the public in the UK is in favour of designer babies, social sex selection, animal-human hybrids, human reproductive cloning, or any other Brave New World proposal," says Josephine Quintavalle of Comment of Reproductive Ethics.

The five dissenting members of the committee issued their own statement when the report was published on Thursday, criticising it for being "light on ethics", "dismissive of public opinion" and too much in favour of deregulation.

Geraldine Smith, one of the dissenters, dubbed it "on a par with a Frankenstein report".

"Creaking" laws
But the committee's chairman, Ian Gibson, defended the publication as the product of year's hard work: "No one can say that this important report has not been thoroughly researched and considered." The MPs who approved the report say current laws and regulations governing human reproductive technologies in the UK - enshrined in a 1990 Act - are now "creaking under the combined weight of scientific and technological advance".

Braude broadly welcomes the report but notes that, on sex selection of embryos, the report is in conflict with a recent public consultation that suggested the public were not in favour of allowing this for non-medical reasons.

He says the report "quite rightly" finds there is "no cogent reason in western society why sex selection shouldn't be allowed for those people who already have one or two children of one sex", but points out this may send the wrong message to other countries where sex selection in favour of boys is a concern.

Key points
The most radical recommendations of the report are:

1) That the emphasis on the screening and selection of embryos shift from the regulatory body, to the patient, within the law. This includes the option of sex selection for family balancing

2) That while human reproductive cloning is banned in the UK, it is likely to take place somewhere in the world. If this were shown to safe and effective "an indefinite absolute ban could not be considered rational"

3) That hybrids and chimeras could be created legally for research if destroyed within the current 14-days allowed for human-embryo research

4) That legislation should not require an assessment of the welfare of a future IVF child - beyond significant physical health problems - as this might be discriminatory

5) That donors of eggs and sperm retain the option of remaining anonymous - clashing with a new law coming into effect after April 2005

Robin Lovell-Badge, head of developmental genetics at the Medical Research Council's UK National Institute for Medical Research says many of the recommendations sound radical but are "logical". He notes, for example, that hybrids and chimeras are already used.

"The idea of chimeras is one of a huge yuk factor," Lovell-Badge told New Scientist, but in the unlikely event that anything did develop, it would not be the monster people imagine. Mice with human immune systems are already used for research, he explains.


Where most rich nations are limiting the rights of parents in this area, the UK seems to be moving forward unimpeded by irrational dystopian fears or religious dogma.

#2 susmariosep

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Posted 25 March 2005 - 10:19 PM

A contribution by question.


Dear Cosmos:

I hope you don't mind, but I am sure you welcome just the same this visit from yours truly, because I really have no contribution but a question, a request for information as from a person better informed than yours truly. You welcome this visit because I would also welcome any visit to any thread I start, because a visit is a visit is a visit and it is always enjoyable to authors of thread, what if nobody visits your thread...

(I write the above paragraph because I feel that someone is stalking me in order to delete my message or relocate it to the Catcher section, the less evil, owing to his judgment as he is possessed of judgment and execution power here from appointment by the superior powers here, the judgment namely that my message is off-topic or of not relevancy to his thinking.)

What I seek to learn from you is about the possibility of successful reversal of ligature in women and vasectomy in men.

You see, I have this idea in view of the fact that a lot of babies are being born which the biological parents are not interested in having on the one hand, and on the other they are not equipped to bring them up properly. And also the over-population of planet earth is I tend to think a real crisis for mankind, which mankind must solve in the way of keeping population to a manageable number.

The idea namely, that the state should ligate every girl and vasectomize every boy at birth, just like they do all the necessary immunizations against diseases to babies right after birth or soon after.

Later in life when a person wants to have babies, he should then apply to the government for the reversal of ligature or vasectomy. This is the chance the government will have to screen the qualifications of a person to be a parent; so that if a person is not possessed of the material and moral resources to bring up a child, then his application for reversal is turned down.

Tell me, are we now possessed of the medical technology for reversing ligature and vasectomy successfully.

Thanks for this favor.

And what do you say, isn't the purpose of a message board also for the information and education of people not as knowledgeable about a host of things as others are, and maybe that is its primary purpose. Otherwise it should not welcome anyone except upon a careful screening of their knowledge armatorium and preferably some impressive evidence of original thinking and masterful exposition skill in the presentation of their most record breaking findings in sciences and in the humanities, and apropos of this board, on matters of making people live forever, scil., knowledge about all pharmaceutical products and scientific speculations on cloning, life extension, genetic engineering.


Susma

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#3 adbatstone

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Posted 26 March 2005 - 01:10 AM

Great. More disgusting apes being brought into this world.

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Posted 30 March 2005 - 09:52 PM

Ron Bailey responds to this report at Reason.

http://www.reason.co.../rb033005.shtml

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Posted 30 March 2005 - 10:46 PM

I do not believe there is anything wrong with baby sex selection. I know someone and she had 8 kids, she wanted a girl...

but she ended up with 8 boys haha

There is nothing imoral about choosing the sex of your child, I believe..

#6 susmariosep

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Posted 02 April 2005 - 10:08 PM

No answer from that site.


Ron Bailey responds to this report at Reason.

http://www.reason.co.../rb033005.shtml


Are you addressing my question whether medical science at present can reverse ligation and vasectomy?

The site you refer to does not take up that question, it is concerned with sex selection.

But I looked up the question with Google and it appears that there are doctors offering such reversals. Yet from the little I read it would seem that the procedure is not foolproof as of now.

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Posted 03 April 2005 - 12:40 AM

I read both your posts and I'm not the one to ask about whether such procedures can be reversed. I wouldn't know.




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