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Dissolving Calcium Supplement in Mouth - Good idea for teeth?


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#1 Guinevere

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 06:26 AM


I take calcium supplements (http://www.amazon.co...s/dp/B000UXI3EC) frequently, and I was wondering if it would be good for the teeth to let the calcium-VitD-K supplement (which is basically calcium carbonate) dissolve in my mouth rather than swallow it. Would it help the teeth remineralize?

#2 niner

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 11:23 PM

If you have a decent diet, you are probably getting enough calcium from dairy products and leafy vegetables. You might actually be better off without the supplemental calcium, though the D and K might be helpful. (or not, depending on dose and form) Try to avoid bone-dissolving drinks like colas, which contain phosphoric acid.

I don't know how good plain old calcium ion is at tooth remineralization. I suspect not that great, but don't really know. There are products specifically made for remineralization, like MI Paste, which I think contains a compound known as "recaldent". Recaldent is also found in some sort of chewing gum that I've forgotten the name of.

#3 Guinevere

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 12:56 AM

I've also heard of a teeth regrowing/regenerating toothpaste. Is it real and safe? Will it be out in a couple of years?

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 01:12 AM

I've heard of a scheme for regenerating a lost tooth, but it wasn't done with toothpaste. I think things that people can actually use are a pretty long way off, like ten or fifteen years. That kind of thing usually needs an insane amount of safety testing before it can be approved by the FDA. Something might come out a little sooner in a different country, but at this point, I don't even know that the techniques are fully worked out.

#5 Danail Bulgaria

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 12:16 PM

To be hinest, I also find it intreresting to see Your experiment, e.g. if You will strenghten Your teeth by waiting the calcium supplement to dissolve in Your mouth. However, I figured out some obsticles.

I think, that the time the supplement dissolves is too short for the calcium to take an effect over Your teeth. Maybe You have to consider the readily dissolved supplement to stay in Your mouth.

Mineralisation of the teeth plaque leads to the development of teeth tartar. In case You try that, be sure, that You are cleaning reguralry and effective the plaque over Your teeth.

If You decide to do the experiment, after that I can't imagine how You will know, that You have actually strenghtened Your teeth. You will need an objective value, that You to use as a criterion to prove that dissolving this supplement in Your mouth strenghtens Your teeth. I can't figure out what this criterion will be. If You were in a test animal study, I would suggest electron misroscopy of the enamel of extracted teeth before and after the procedure :) after the first and the last days in the experiment :) Further more, I would suggest the enamel of all of the teeth to be damaged artifitially with acids :) so to be seen the demineralisation effect in the enamel of the first extracted teeth and the remineralisation effect of the supplement at the end of the experiment ... but You definately are not a test animal, so the question how to detect, that this influences Your teeth is in a question.

After that, in order to isolate only the effect of the supplement, You must stop using everything, that may contribute to the calcium in Your mouth and teeth. This means, that You must stop any other food, drink or whatever You put in Your mouth, that may contain calcium. You also must have an examination of Your Vitamin D and the hormones, that influence the calcium metabolism in the body. These exams must proove, that the values are normal according to the average values for Your species - humans :) and You must not take any hormones and vitamins including with the food, that have influence over the calcium metabolism.

#6 Danail Bulgaria

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 12:39 PM

About the teeth regrowing/regenerating toothpaste - I think, that there is a misunderstanding. Perhaps You have heared about teeth (or enamel) REMINERALISATION toothpastes - not about regeneration or regrowing toothpastes. There is a significant difference between remineralisation and regeneration. The remineralisation toothpastes, dental medications, methodics and whatever, repairs only damages in the ultrastructure of the enamel - they recover calcium in the enamel pyramids and recover the calcium in the interpyramidal hard substances. These methodics today are not able to produce new enamel - new enamel pyramids and new interpiramidal hard tissues. If for example an emamel pyramid gets lost, the remineralisation techniques will not produce new pyramid and it will be lost forever. So, a remineralisation toothpaste will never close a caries hole in the tooth, nor it will repair a broken tooth.

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 06:19 PM

Calcium Lactate rinse does have an effect
http://www.ncbi.nlm..../pubmed/2736575

LLLT stimulated bone formation so may be of help:
http://www.lindsayla...t_Rat_Korea.pdf

MI Paste with recacident:
http://www.mountains...int-Flavor.html

#8 zorba990

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 02:08 AM

Nano calcium phosphate might be even better:
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/22933607




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