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[Absent]

There's no other words to describe it really.

Food taste better.
My reflexes are better.
I can speak better.
I can articulate sentences better
The depth of my focus has increased
Energy levels are heightened to a degree but it's not the "wired" feeling.
Thoughts are much clearer

If I had to describe the feeling, it would be that it feels as if my body is processing energy better... not producing more energy, but processing it more smoothly.

This was all with about 1mg of MB.

I felt so much improved and content an hour after that(the effect started within moments of taking it), that I decided to take another 1mg dosage 1 hour later. The effects only improved!


If you're curious on my dilution.... it took me a bit to figure it out, but I managed to resolve it.

I put 1/8 Tablespoon of Methylene Blue(2.3%) into a bottle of water which had 500ml of water in it.
I did the math and that was about 14mg of MB in the 500ml bottle of water.
When I'm dosing I pour about 2 Tablespoons of it into a cup, equaling to about .5mg per tablespoon.

I was highly skeptical of this at first due to the typical super low dose.... but sure enough I can assure you this is not a placebo effect. It is far too noticeable in any action I do to be a placebo.

[niner]

Sounds like a hypomania. I have no idea how a microdose of MB could precipitate a hypomania, though. Placebo effects can be very noticeable. Placebo is one of the most powerful drugs we have.

[Absent]

I've never been one for placebo effects.

What I am feeling is surely noticeable, there is no doubt. 1mg of a substance can very easily effect cellular metabolism. If you don't think so, go take 1mg of LSD and tell me it's a placebo. A strong LSD dose is 400ug, that's almost half of a miligram, and that can make you trip balls to hell and back.

Either way, even my motor functioning has increased. It is extremely noticeable. My apathy has also increased, in terms of social validation. I feel as if I don't care as much about social approval. This is a common effect of boosted serotonin levels, and since MB is proven to be an MAOI, it's reasonable to think it may have this effect.

Unless MB has some magical effect of making people who take it feel strong placebo effects, then I'm not sure. I guess Vicodin also has a strong placebo effect where peoples sense of pain is greatly reduced.

I wouldn't say Hypomania. Piracetam gives Hypomania, I know what that feels like, I'm still a little manic from the piracetam as of right now... but that doesn't change the immensely noticeable difference that I felt after taking MB. You don't just go from having no energy about to fall asleep to being fully functional with increased motor skills(namely in martial arts coordination) off of a placebo effect.


Try it yourself

Edited by Siro, 18 October 2012 - 01:45 AM.

[Absent]

Okay, this isn't placebo, but I've noticed I'm thinking in rhymes. I can feel and hear music pulsating through my head.

This is likely a synergistic effect with the Piracetam, but piracetam has never done something of this level. Placebo effects do not make you hear music in your head. I hear it, as if it's playing next to my ear.

Elevated serotonin levels or doses of LSD(which stimulate serotonin receptors) can make you hear music though.... and I haven't taken LSD for at least 4 years.

Not a placebo effect.

Edited by Siro, 18 October 2012 - 01:52 AM.

[tintinet]

What's your source for MB?

[dear mrclock]

i second tintinet, whats your source for MB ??

[stablemind]

You need to test yourself with cambridge or lumocity, this is the only way to make sure it's not placebo. There's been may times where I felt smarter when it was just all in my head.

[Absent]

Okay I'm not going to use this stuff anymore.

I know it wasn't a placebo, especially after the comedown.

I took some this morning, around 0.50mg.... and around noon I started feeling horrible.

I had to go to my moms wedding and it felt like my serotonin was nuked.

Complete apathy, horrible mood, felt like commiting suicide. I also kept getting INCREDIBLY angry. I felt like murdering my pets when I was playing with them! Like horrible contempt for all things. Not a feeling I like. Last time I experienced this types of feelings was after a bad break up around 2 years ago that nearly led me to suicide, but I've long since got over that.

Kept having burst of odd feeling in my head as if my blood-flow was failing and felt like I was going to faint/pass out every 5 minutes. I guess MAOI's aren't meant to be taken inconsistently. This is NOT a feeling I want to go to back to, ever, even inspite of the temporary boost it gives me. Come down it NOT worth it!!! I stay away from any substance that gives negative feelings following good ones.

I honestly felt like I almost had to go to the hospital because I was afraid due to the near-fainting episodes. Almost felt as if blood was clotting in my brain and then bursting forward in big amounts causing big nasty rushes that almost knocked me out.

I haven't felt suicidal/depressed in over 2 years so I can assure everyone that this is indeed not a placebo effect. I haven't even been on a substance in the last 2 years that made me feel this way..... definitely don't want to mess around with that.

The comedown/hanger over effects are not worth it. I'm not sure the cause of them, but those effects are directly correlated with other peoples reports of an after-the-fact hangover type situation with MB.


There was a definite, obvious effect, extreme good, and extreme bad. No placebo produces effects this strong, I can assure you. I have never experienced a placebo effect in my life.

One of the things I noticed on the Upsides of the MB was, I was super relaxed to the point of being nearly retarded. I was laughing hysterically at a video I saw on youtube that had 90% dislikes..... everyone else hated it, but I thought it was the funniest thing I had seen in my LIFE. I felt drugged.

I do not suggest anyone adopt MB into their stack unless they are happy with taking it consistently many times aday. If you don't you're going to experience some very very nasty effects.

This also gives me some insight onto more of those depressing posts of Isochroma after he had bragged about MB's power.

Edited by Siro, 19 October 2012 - 12:17 AM.

[niner]

I'm sorry to have offended you by pointing out the power of placebo effects. All things considered, your response sounds real. (although placebo effects are real, too) If what you were experiencing was a biochemical effect of MB, then it probably wasn't MAOI-related, since MB's lowest IC50 for any MAO would require a much larger dose than 1mg.

I and a lot of other people here have taken doses of MB from as low as 60 ug to multiple milligrams, and felt... nothing. Maybe there are responders and non-responders. If MB really has potent psychotropic effects at a dose of 1mg, we have to come up with an explanation for how people have taken it for the past century, at doses as high as hundreds of milligrams, and these effects have never been observed. Could the whole comedown thing have been related to your mom getting married? That's a pretty emotionally loaded situation.

[dear mrclock]

i still didnt get the fucking source of your MB man. how about we start from there, point us to your source and we check if its a good quality MB to begin with and its not mixed with other shit to cause such effect. seriously....

[MrHappy]

When I was experimenting with MB, the first time, I saw marked effects at 1mg and beneficial effects even at 60mcg. I had significant brain fog for a few months after stopping (until trying uridine.)

The second round, 9 months later, with a different batch, from the same manufacturer didn't have the same effect, even at 20mg.

I think that either impurities in the product eg. azure-b or leuco-methylene blue are the cause, or perhap people who are pronounced under methylators benefit the most.

[Turnbuckle]

i still didnt get the fucking source of your MB man. how about we start from there, point us to your source and we check if its a good quality MB to begin with and its not mixed with other shit to cause such effect. seriously....

No doubt blotter MB, bought on the street from some longhair whispering, blue, want some blue?

[maxwatt]

i still didnt get the fucking source of your MB man. how about we start from there, point us to your source and we check if its a good quality MB to begin with and its not mixed with other shit to cause such effect. seriously....

No doubt blotter MB, bought on the street from some longhair whispering, blue, want some blue?

Hahaha. Ha.

Could be a manic episode that just happened to coincide with using MB?

I have several bottles of the stuff made up from lab grade material by Kingherbs, but I stopped using it as resveratrol plus C60 seemed to give overlapping effects. Maybe I will break out a bottle again and see if it adds anything.

[stablemind]

When I was experimenting with MB, the first time, I saw marked effects at 1mg and beneficial effects even at 60mcg. I had significant brain fog for a few months after stopping (until trying uridine.)

The second round, 9 months later, with a different batch, from the same manufacturer didn't have the same effect, even at 20mg.

I think that either impurities in the product eg. azure-b or leuco-methylene blue are the cause, or perhap people who are pronounced under methylators benefit the most.

How long were you using MB for before you stopped?

[MrHappy]

When I was experimenting with MB, the first time, I saw marked effects at 1mg and beneficial effects even at 60mcg. I had significant brain fog for a few months after stopping (until trying uridine.)

The second round, 9 months later, with a different batch, from the same manufacturer didn't have the same effect, even at 20mg.

I think that either impurities in the product eg. azure-b or leuco-methylene blue are the cause, or perhap people who are pronounced under methylators benefit the most.

How long were you using MB for before you stopped?

About 6 weeks, from memory.

[dear mrclock]

unless MB cures SOMETHING i dont see point of using that shit. :/

[stablemind]

unless MB cures SOMETHING i dont see point of using that shit. :/

It's supposed to help remove residual depressive symptoms from BPII and there are lots of reports of cognitive enhancement, so I'm not sure what you mean.

[dear mrclock]

BPII ? im sorry but most of what i read is supposed life extension effects of this substance. that is usually a category for money making and zero substance. maybe im wrong with it but i have seen and read enough of scams related to this.