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[Julia36]

Mammoths killed out by men

 

Cave drawings may be hunting lessons.

The team analysed the composition of stable isotopes in mammoth, horse and reindeer bones – a technique that is used for gathering dietary and environmental information from extinct species.

 

 

The relative amounts of carbon, sulphur and nitrogen isotopes provide indications of the stability of the animals’ environment.

All three species showed a mainly stable concentration of isotopes during the Gravettian era, meaning that their environment didn’t change much, ruling out climate change as the reason for the decline of mammoths." more

 

 http://www.dailymail...l#ixzz3RFxFfoq5
 

The challenge is being back exact dead mammoths, and not just the species. De-ext9inctionists will have to be able to do this fro QA to work.

 

 

Interactive map plots the possible locations of buried treasure around the world

 

 

[The Daily Mail's getting so good I should just put a link to it and retire]

 

http://www.dailymail...l#ixzz3RFwHiEzi
 

 

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[Julia36]

We're All Going to Die; DNA Strands on the End of Our Chromosomes Hint

 

"Scientists currently studying the gene mutations that cause people to have unnaturally short telomeres. Recent research finds those mutations are connected to both pulmonary fibrosis and emphysema." more

 

http://www.scienceda...50206125342.htm

 

 

[Julia36]

The bird that blocked the sun

 

"PARRY SOUND – “Extinction is forever - or so we thought,” opened Mark Peck at his presentation at the West Parry Sound District Museum on Thursday evening, January 15.

Peck, a technician in the Department of Natural history at the Royal Ontario Museum in Toronto, presented on the 100th anniversary of the extinction of the passenger pigeon and the De-Extinction Project – a project that aims to revive and restore the species.

A sold out crowd listened intently as Peck described this once bountiful species and how in a matter of approximately 50 years it went from being the most numerous bird in the world to extinction." more>>

 

http://www.parrysoun...ssenger-pigeon/

 

classic National Geographic video talk

http://www.nationalg...m/deextinction/

 

 

[Julia36]

Evolutionary response of Sharks to learned whale behaviour.

 

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[Julia36]

Light activation of genes achieved

 

"This technology should allow a scientist to pick any gene on any chromosome and turn it on or off with light..." more>>>


 http://phys.org/news...-precisely.html

 

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[Julia36]

Untouched Mycenaean Tomb Found in Central Greece

 

 

 

An ancient Greek Mycenaean tomb was unearthed in Amfissa, central Greece, during an irrigation project that required excavation in the area. It is a unique finding, the first of its kind that has ever been found in West Locris and one of the few in central Greece.

The preliminary archaeological study of the findings shows that the tomb was used for more than two centuries, from the 13th to the 11th century B.C..

Within the burial chamber archaeologists found a large amount of skeletal material, which had accumulated near the surrounding walls, while a few better preserved burials were also uncovered." more>>

http://greece.greekr...h.VBH4N84j.dpuf
 

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[Julia36]

Prehistoric Cult sites discovered in Israel

 

 

Some 100 prehistoric "cult sites," complete with penis stone structures and artifacts with vulva shapes cut into them, have been discovered in the Eilat Mountains, an extremely arid area of the Negev Desert in Israel.

At the sites, which date back around 8,000 years, archaeologists discovered a variety of stone structures and artifacts, including stone circles that measure 1.5 to 2.5 meters across (roughly 5 to 8 feet) with penis-shaped installations pointing toward them. Other findings there include standing stones that reach up to 2.6 feet (80 centimeters) high, stone bowls and stone carvings that have a humanlike shape.

 

http://www.livescien...-in-israel.html

 

Ancient animal bone suggests Himiko adopted Chinese fortunetelling method

 

 

 

 

"SAKURAI, Nara Prefecture--An animal bone unearthed from ancient ruins here indicates that a fortunetelling method imported from China was adopted by shaman queen Himiko and leaders of the Yamato State.

Sakurai city’s education board on Jan. 29 said the bone was discovered at the Makimuku ruins, believed to have been a key city for the Yamataikoku kingdom governed by Himiko.

The Makimuku ruins, a national historic site, date back to the early third to early fourth centuries.

Characteristics of the bone, a boar’s right scapula, showed that it was used in a fortunetelling method that was brought from China and spread in Japan during the Yayoi Pottery Culture period (around the fifth century B.C. to the third century A.D.)"

 

http://ajw.asahi.com.../AJ201501300078

 

 

The bone measures 16.7 centimeter long and 6.7 cm wide. Three round marks were apparently burned into the bone with a stick. The bone was unearthed along with pottery, a wooden item and other animal bones from an oval hole.

 

 

Rare Buddhist Masters Remains Found in  China

 

 

In a rare find, Chinese archaeologists have discovered five precious relics believed to be from the cremated ashes of Buddhist masters at an ancient tomb in central China's Hubei Province.

The objects were found in late last month and later identified by monks and researchers as sariras (relics)

The relics are believed to be collected from the cremated ashes of Buddhist masters.

It is very rare to find sariras in a tomb, as they are usually unearthed at Buddhist temples, Chen Qianwan, head of the archaeology institute of Xiangyang City said today."

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[Julia36]

Big Data Use Quickens Business

 

 

As it progresses the importance of making big data systems interoperate with existing enterprise and information architecture along with digital transformation strategies becomes critical. Done properly companies can take advantage of big data innovations to optimize their established business processes and execute new business strategies. But just deploying big data and applying analytics to understand it is just the beginning." more>>>

 

 

http://smartdatacoll...are-bolder-2015

[Julia36]

Companies re-making the Chinese economy

 

great article on Chinese pushing technology

http://www.fastcompa...panies-in-china

 

Already the biggest market in the US$9.5 billion global robot trade - or US$29 billion including associated software, peripherals and systems engineering - China lags far behind its more industrialised peers in terms of robot density.

China has just 30 robots per 10,000 workers employed in manufacturing industries, compared with 437 in South Korea, 323 in Japan, 282 in Germany and 152 in the United States.

But a race by carmakers to build plants in China along with wage inflation that has eroded the competitiveness of Chinese labour will push the operational stock of industrial robots to more than double to 428,000 by 2017, the IFR estimates.

 

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[Julia36]

Japanese Hotel staffed by polite intelligent young women: are all robots

 

The robots are designed to look like and share the mannerisms of a polite young Japanese women.

 

 

 

["People emailed me and said "2015.- .robots that soon? No way!" & "You're too optimistic with your predictions especially on robots coming"]

 

" Japan opens hotel run by ROBOTS that will welcome guests, carry bags and even clean your room

• Humanoids will staff the Henn-na Hotel in Nagasaki, which opens in July
• They will check in new guests, carry their luggage and clean their rooms
• Robots are designed to look and behave like young Japanese women
• They can make eye contact and alter their body language
• Hi-tech hotel will use facial recognition and detect guests' temperatures
• Single room will cost £40 (¥7,000) per night and a double, from £50 (¥9,000)" more>>>

http://www.dailymail...l#ixzz3RI0Dev9k
 

This has to start a race for higher robots, that are cheaper as parts tumble and software goes open.

 

 

Edited by stopgam, 09 February 2015 - 10:38 PM.

[Julia36]

New archaeological discovery in Ethiopia

 

"The discoveries have now plugged-in the dark spot in the sequence of human evolution"

 

 

Afar Oasis

 

Afar People

A new archaeological discovery may have uncovered evidence that could help fill gaps spanning hundreds of thousands of years and align the origin of human species in a chronological order.

The discovery, which was made as a part of a research assignment called Middle Awash Research Project, was made alongside Awash River in Afar Region – a region where the Famed "Lucy" Fossils were discovered 40 Years Ago.

http://www.theafrica...-study-gap.html

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2015 The Robots Are Here!!!!

 

 

qu'est-ce que je fais ici?

Edited by stopgam, 09 February 2015 - 11:58 PM.

[serp777]

"Quantum computers and new maths to calculate detailed histories and memories of everyone dead."

 

This is pure magic.

 

What this would require:

Wormhole technology for time travel. Saying new maths doesn't get you out of how you can possibly know trillions of particle configurations that occurred more than 2000 years ago.

A star trek transporter like device which can record the position, momentum, and other quantum variables of every particle in the brain, and then store it in ludicrously large DSD.

Generalized quantum computing.

3D brain printer

A complete understanding of neuroanatomy

The most massive mass production effort ever to resurrect 106 billion people for no reason.

A solution to overpopulation.

 

its not practical. Its entirely in the realm of science fiction, and you're making a lot of assumptions.

[A941]

Not quiet an idea i think will be feasible, and even if, i wouldnt be sure about the "identity" of the ressurected person, but i still enjoy the collection of interessting links.

[Julia36]

[Julia36]

Quantum Archaeology predicts people in the past and present will interact

 

Quantum science is hurtling forwards aided by accelerating Artificial intelligence. In the 2020's A.I.'s will do lab work discovery and creative science. Until then we tinker at the edge of the very big and the very small,

 

 

http://www.science20...universe-153195

"It takes 20 or 30 minutes to run one of these experiments," Murch said, "several weeks to process it, and a year to scratch our heads to see if we're crazy or not. "At the end of the day, I take solace in the fact that we have a real experiment and real data that we plot on real curves."

 

 

[Julia36]

Neadethall's and the domestic dog

 

 

 

"The news about how Neanderthals lived and died has emerged as part of a veritable research boom. At the end of 2013, an international team of scientists published a complete sequence of a Neanderthal woman’s genome, and confirmed that billions of modern humans carry remnants of Neanderthal DNA. Last month, a paper in the journal Nature reported on the discovery of a fossilized skull that suggests Neanderthals and humans were living side-by-side in Israel between 50,000 and 60,000 years ago. And next month Belknap Press will publish a book by Shipman theorizing that one key factor in Neanderthals’ demise was the human domestication of dogs.

 

“It’s a great time to be researching Neanderthals because we’re learning so quickly,” said Steven Churchill, a professor of evolutionary anthropology at Duke University. “But it’s a horrible time to write a book,” he added with a laugh. New information is arriving at such a fast pace that it’s difficult for even scholars to keep up." more>>

 

http://www.bostonglo...DAxK/story.html

 

 

 

[Julia36]

[serp777]

Quantum Archaeology predicts people in the past and present will interact

 

Quantum science is hurtling forwards aided by accelerating Artificial intelligence. In the 2020's A.I.'s will do lab work discovery and creative science. Until then we tinker at the edge of the very big and the very small,

 

 

http://www.science20...universe-153195

"It takes 20 or 30 minutes to run one of these experiments," Murch said, "several weeks to process it, and a year to scratch our heads to see if we're crazy or not. "At the end of the day, I take solace in the fact that we have a real experiment and real data that we plot on real curves."

 

 

We won't have AIs by 2020, i don't know where you're getting that. Quantum archaeology is irrational and unscientific. Not only is it pointless but the technology requirement are insane. Its super, super science fiction. The future effects the past on nanosecond and microsecond scales. It doesn't work on large time scales--you can see the deterministic nature of large scalebodies over billions of years through cosmology--clearly large scale time doesn't affect the past. So your human resurrection (106 billion people of the past) nonsense is based on an extrapolation of physics that you don't understand/misinterpreted. You're still missing the wormhole technology and the brain recorder and the brain printers.

 

its more like Quantum Magicology. Its not based on reality and would be fringe sci fi.
 

Edited by serp777, 15 February 2015 - 06:44 PM.

[Julia36]

 

Domestic Robots Prototyping

 

http://zeenews.india...ry_1546980.html

 

"A team of artificial intelligence (AI) researchers has demonstrated a robot that is capable of doing laundry without any specific knowledge of what it has to wash." more>>>

 

Edited by stopgam, 15 February 2015 - 11:29 PM.

[Julia36]

World's first rotary 3-D printer-cum-scanner unveiled at AAAS meeting

 

 

[We can observe and measure by scanning past the 5 nanometres required for a unique human being. Future scanners will not be confined to photography but use sonics and radio waves, and print up from subatomic architectures.]

 

"Named the Blacksmith Genesis, this user-friendly device allows users without much knowledge of 3D software to scan any item, then edit the digitised model on the computer and print it out in 3D.

The all-in-one 3D printer and scanner whose production was financed through a crowdfunding campaign on Indiegogo.com, was unveiled today at the American Association Advancement of Science (AAAS) Annual Meeting in San Jose, California." more>>

 http://phys.org/news...r-unveiled.html

 

[Julia36]

The hunt for gravitational waves could be nearing success + Video

 

Even if you have not yet heard about gravitational waves, you are going to in the coming years. When they are detected, it will revolutionise our investigation of the universe."  more>>

 

http://www.theguardi...nearing-success

[Julia36]

[Because of the sums we can cope with in 2015 thinking we can trace back everyone who lived in eno0ugh detail to  map them out and hand the recipe to nanobot engineers ahead may look impossible. But it;s only a matter of statistics by which most archaeology is completed.

 

It would be weird if we couldn't resurrect the dead in the future, because it would mean miniturisation had halted and maths had halted  These are points in films but we should be able to construct points in a wide Quantum Archaeology Grid ]

 

[Julia36]

How-Silicon-Valley-is-trying-to-cure-ageing

Google's $Billion anti-aging lab: "We are scientists from the fields of medicine, drug development, molecular biology, and genetics.

Through our research we're aiming to devise interventions that slow aging and counteract age‑related diseases.

great article>

 

http://www.telegraph...ure-ageing.html

[Julia36]

Driverless cars beat Racing Driver for 1st time

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.telegraph...first-time.html

To get the cars up to speed, the Stanford team have been studying drivers, even attaching electrodes to their heads to monitor brain activity in the hope of learning which neural circuits are working during difficult manouvres." more>>>

 

UK rolls out trials in 4 cities in July.

 

Edited by stopgam, 16 February 2015 - 01:06 AM.

[serp777]

[Because of the sums we can cope with in 2015 thinking we can trace back everyone who lived in eno0ugh detail to  map them out and hand the recipe to nanobot engineers ahead may look impossible. But it;s only a matter of statistics by which most archaeology is completed.

 

It would be weird if we couldn't resurrect the dead in the future, because it would mean miniturisation had halted and maths had halted  These are points in films but we should be able to construct points in a wide Quantum Archaeology Grid ]

 

 

Ok many problems here.Resurrection of the dead, particularly people 200-2000 years in the past, isn't just solved by miniaturization and math. And its math, not maths. And because of sums? What sums? How are you going to record the configuration of every atom in the brain for people who's brains have long since disintegrated? You're talking about star trek transporter technology that can go into the past.

 

It would be incredibly hard to resurrect one person who died recently with a perfectly preserved brain. We can't even bring people out of cryogenic sleep yet.

 

What evidence do you have the biology is anywhere close to restarting failed biological systems?

 

You live in fantasy land.

 

And driver-less cars and laundry doing robots are about as close to general artificial intelligence as a chess playing computer. You do understand the problem with artificial intelligence right? Its an NP hard problem.

 

Finally curing aging doesn't solve the problem of resurrection and isn't relevant to your thread. Also clearly you downvote everyone who disagrees with you, which is childish and stupid.

 

oh and P.S. you don't have to make 6 different threads for one post. You can divide one post up into sections so it doesn't spam in people's emails that you made six new topics.

Edited by serp777, 16 February 2015 - 02:48 AM.

[npcomplete]

 

Ok many problems here.Resurrection of the dead, particularly people 200-2000 years in the past, isn't just solved by miniaturization and math. And its math, not maths. And because of sums? What sums? How are you going to record the configuration of every atom in the brain for people who's brains have long since disintegrated? You're talking about star trek transporter technology that can go into the past.

 

It would be incredibly hard to resurrect one person who died recently with a perfectly preserved brain. We can't even bring people out of cryogenic sleep yet.

 

What evidence do you have the biology is anywhere close to restarting failed biological systems?

 

You live in fantasy land.

 

And driver-less cars and laundry doing robots are about as close to general artificial intelligence as a chess playing computer. You do understand the problem with artificial intelligence right? Its an NP hard problem.

 

Finally curing aging doesn't solve the problem of resurrection and isn't relevant to your thread. Also clearly you downvote everyone who disagrees with you, which is childish and stupid.

 

oh and P.S. you don't have to make 6 different threads for one post. You can divide one post up into sections so it doesn't spam in people's emails that you made six new topics.

 

 

I believe stopgam comes from a country where the word/abbreviation "Maths" is common.

 

As for "NP hard", the thread title is "Quantum Archaeology Turing Church dec 2012", so given the "Turing Church" part in the title that is a reasonable question.

 

The Church-Turing thesis is unproven, but with a lot of subscribers. Maybe something better will come along for physical use in the future, but for now that is the way we compute.

 

From some of the earlier questioning in this thread, stopgam rejects the Church-Turing thesis, and since the thesis is unproven I have no problems at all with his opinion. Given his rejection of Church-Turing, then the whole "NP Hard" issue goes away - since the theory of np-completeness is based on Turing Machines.

 

Good question though, and the "Turing Church" part in stopgam's thread is what made me first take a look... so from that perspective it worked... and apparently it worked for a lot of people!

 

stopgam: I still enjoy the links and *cartoons*, even if I may "need a bit of clarification" on your computing model(s).
 

[serp777]

 

 

Ok many problems here.Resurrection of the dead, particularly people 200-2000 years in the past, isn't just solved by miniaturization and math. And its math, not maths. And because of sums? What sums? How are you going to record the configuration of every atom in the brain for people who's brains have long since disintegrated? You're talking about star trek transporter technology that can go into the past.

 

It would be incredibly hard to resurrect one person who died recently with a perfectly preserved brain. We can't even bring people out of cryogenic sleep yet.

 

What evidence do you have the biology is anywhere close to restarting failed biological systems?

 

You live in fantasy land.

 

And driver-less cars and laundry doing robots are about as close to general artificial intelligence as a chess playing computer. You do understand the problem with artificial intelligence right? Its an NP hard problem.

 

Finally curing aging doesn't solve the problem of resurrection and isn't relevant to your thread. Also clearly you downvote everyone who disagrees with you, which is childish and stupid.

 

oh and P.S. you don't have to make 6 different threads for one post. You can divide one post up into sections so it doesn't spam in people's emails that you made six new topics.

 

 

I believe stopgam comes from a country where the word/abbreviation "Maths" is common.

 

As for "NP hard", the thread title is "Quantum Archaeology Turing Church dec 2012", so given the "Turing Church" part in the title that is a reasonable question.

 

The Church-Turing thesis is unproven, but with a lot of subscribers. Maybe something better will come along for physical use in the future, but for now that is the way we compute.

 

From some of the earlier questioning in this thread, stopgam rejects the Church-Turing thesis, and since the thesis is unproven I have no problems at all with his opinion. Given his rejection of Church-Turing, then the whole "NP Hard" issue goes away - since the theory of np-completeness is based on Turing Machines.

 

Good question though, and the "Turing Church" part in stopgam's thread is what made me first take a look... so from that perspective it worked... and apparently it worked for a lot of people!

 

stopgam: I still enjoy the links and *cartoons*, even if I may "need a bit of clarification" on your computing model(s).
 

 

 

Regardless, his assertion that we'll have AI by 2020 is very flawed. The first AI that will likely be developed first is a simulation of the human brain. Its relatively easy to simulate neurons based on individual components than it is to have a theory of AI and generic learning algorithms.

 

However, he still has all of his work cut out to prove a number of extremely advanced and complicated technologies that need to come about before the entire ridiculous concept of quantum archaeology can become reasonably possible.

 

First thing he needs: a star trek transporter data recorder device that can copy and store the position of every since particle in the brain. This would require quantum computers too probably.

 

He also needs wormhole technology to the past to be able to access brain which no longer exist. New "maths" doesn't solve the problems of trillions of configurations of atoms which no longer exist.

 

And a country that says "maths" seems to be somewhat unversed in the English language. Maths is used by kids or in memes to reflect ignorance. I knows teh maths.

 

Also, what economic reason would anyone have to pursue quantum wasteoftimeology anyways? How is it useful to resurrect dead and gone people except for some historical insight, especially his claim of 106 BILLION!!?! No one will pay the trillions of dollars needed to do this just to get a better perspective on history.

 

He still hasn't addressed the whole overpopulation issue anyways as well as where you put 106 billion people. Literally every continent would be full and farms would have to cover 99.99% of the planet with super genetically engineered crops. Then he also wants an anti aging solution on top of this.

 

I mean if this was an idea for a really far out science fiction novel it could potentially be a cool story, but realistically this is impossible for the next 500-1000 years. That's assuming time travel is even possible.

 

Also you seem like a computer scientist, am I right? maybe a mathematician but more likely a mathematician/computer scientist double major.

Edited by serp777, 16 February 2015 - 07:39 AM.