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looking for more "progressive" treatment options, OTC nootropics can only get someone so far


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#1 crusader

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 05:56 AM


car accident (whiplash), multi substance drug abuse, concussion, football for 10 years, poor diet as a child.. lets get this straight, i am completely aware the brain is a very plastic organ, however, given what my brain has been through, it deserves serious repair. a serious problem requires a serious solution. over the counter nootropics can only get a individual so far, and it appears that most of the members on this forum are already brain healthy people who are just looking for a little extra edge in day to day activities. And in this scenario, nootropics are a sufficient option, but there are some, like myself, who are truly suffering, and otc nootropics by themselves, are not a viable solution.

this is what i am on so far, some of these i have been on for over a month, some i just started. I feel like if my brain issues are comparable to an invading army, using these nootropics is like sending in a couple tanks, its time to bring out the big guns.

1. high dose fish oil
2. alcar
3. alpha gpc
4. ginko biloba
5.dha




im seeking more progressive treatment options. money is not an issue, and im willing to do anything and everything for my brain. i understand the brain has the capacity to heal, however, i need more viable options.


what has caught my attention so far, if there are any more you can think of, let me know, also, if there are any of these you do or do not like, explain why.


1. HGH (human growth hormone)
2. hyperbaric oxygen therapy
3. cerebroylsin
4. high dose amino acid therapy


my naturopath wants me to do number 4. would this yield permanent or temporary results ?




edit. this whole quest to find more radical treatments started when i read this article http://www.scientifi...verse-brain-dam


also when i heard cerebroylsin, i heard about both of these treatments on the same day, so i figured there are more options out there, options that have the potential to reverse brain damage, not just mitigate them.

Edited by crusader, 22 December 2012 - 06:26 AM.

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#2 crusader

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 04:23 PM

hm, im assuming the knowledge of longecity is relegated to over the counter supplements seeing that no one replied haha

Edited by crusader, 28 December 2012 - 04:24 PM.


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#3 Candidatus

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 05:38 PM

Since you didn´t mention any speficic cognitive problems, I assume that you are just seeking possible ways that might optimize your brain functions. From what you said, I can see that you are largely relying on passive ways to do so, such as supplements, medication or hyperbaric chamber.

I believe you should consider also some active ways, such as:

- meditation, yoga practices and similar
- exercise
- mental training such as n-back
- memory training (google dominic o´brien)
- language learning
- neurofeedback

People on this forum are too much concerned about immidiate benefits and quick fixes from nootropic supplements, which is however an inferior way to boost cognitive abilities. Training your brain should always come first (and you can find tons of studies relating brain training and cognitive improvement).

From the supplemental side, I assume that you have already perfected your diet since it is the keystone if you are seeking long-term improvements. If so, you can look at supplements like phosphatydil serine, lion´s mane, injectable B vitamins and other vitamins and minerals (Magnesium).

As for conventional nootropics, I am a strong believer that they are just a quick fix/boost and doesn´t usually provide permanent benefits.

However, you have also mentioned Cerebrolysin, which is not really a conventional nootropic from my experience. I have supplemented 5 weeks so far with this substance and it is really great. I strongly believe it can help you. But the effect might be stronger if you incorporate other practices mentioned above.

For more information on HGH, I would advise you to look at bodybuilding forums, they might have more experience with this stuff. I have personally tried HGH releasing peptides for a while, but they didn´t provide me with any noticable nootropic benefits.

If you are seeking a magic treatment or a magic pill, I am afraid I can not help you.

Edited by Candidatus, 28 December 2012 - 05:47 PM.


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Posted 28 December 2012 - 06:35 PM

Have you heard of Semax?




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