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Legitamte anti aging ( no vitamines, BS supplements, pro aging)

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#1 anagram

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 05:18 AM


A general anti aging supplement routine I have made


Young (1-50)
Daily dosings
-Exercise (increasing need with Age, it increases ROS which destroy AGE's)
-Resveratrol ( to increase SOD to decrease formation of AGE's or super AGE's)
-C60(maybe take this, and if you do, occasionally. c60 is an extremely potent teratogen)
-Anything to increase dopamine/PEA (Dopamine and PEA react with peroxidases to increase the ROS which break AGE's)
-Asprin(low dose inhibits lipid peroxidation and gets rid of AGE's)
-Carnosine( AGE breaker, very potent because of its specific uptake by cells(looks like an amino acid), little expensive but good all around)
-Melatonin (it seems like a complete antioxidant, devoid of AGE breaking ability, however it is good preventative medicine.)
-Astaxanthin( the sun's rays will fry you literally, decrease the up regulation of Nf-Kb associated with several chronic disorders)
-zinc(important, to many people miss this)
-Acetyl cholinesterase inhibitors( the defining reason why humans live longer is our high Acetyl choline, it dissolves AGE's like brain plaques, cytokines)
-Sugar alcohol to kill unwanted bacteria including nano bacteria, which cause immflamation
-Inositol (to decrease iron absorption)
Older (50-100)
every other day
-exercise as much as you physically can(increase ROS to destroy super AGE's)
-take Asprin, Carnosine, ACHEI's, Dopamine boasters, C60(maybe), and Astaxanthin when you exercise in order to inhibit lipid peroxidation/ inflammation , and help clear out AGE's that are in the body.
-Take Erythritol or a sugar alcohol to kill nano unhealthy bacteria, which is associated with heart problems/ mental issues.

Take preventative supplements the day after you exercise, to inhibit formation of new AGE's
list includes:
Resveratrol (high dose for maximum absorption)
melatonin
C60(maybe, reasons stated above)
Astaxanthin
Carnosine
Zinc



-specific information
: dopamine boasters/ PEA boasters
Phenylalanine
DOPAC( through negative feed back)
PEA
Selegiline
creativity, exercise, engaging conversation, social life, puzzles, music.
Cannabis, it increases extracellular concentration of PEA, however do not smoke it, vape it. Make sure its good quality, fungis is known to grow on nugs.


:ACHI's or Acetyl cholinesterase inhibitors/ acetyl choline boasters
Tea tree oil
(Conversation,Exercise)(caused by endogenous mir-132)
Huperzine A
Cannabis
Galantamine
Work


Appreciating the things you do everyday is what you cannot do when you are stressed out. This is why stressed people live shorter, you have less neurotransmitters like dopamine and acetyl choline, and have more hormonal activity going on.
To extend the lives of Young and Old people, I recommend becoming good at something, or at least appreciating the things you do, the latter is not as good as actually becoming good at something.


-additional information

Breathing more oxidizes iron from Fe(2) to Fe(3) which decreases oxidative damage to cells. Increased ROS but less oxidative damage decreases AGE accumulation and helps destroy AGEs. This is partially why exercise is good, make sure you breath with better control/breathing as much as you can, it will help significantly.

Don't take vitamine supplements, they are a waste unless you have a chronic deficiency caused by genetic reasons.


Decrease environmental toxins like AFLA toxin(peanuts, unwashed cloths, dirt, dust, old food) and excess Flouride(its unavoidable in this country for some reason)
they will decrease the number of toxic events to cells, thus leading to less genetic up regulation of SOD.

Avoid excess sun (it up regulates Nf-Kb, causes mild glycation and protein changes)

Lower your intake of Iron, and supplement with Zinc, partially to prevent uptake of heavy metals and because zinc is an important mineral.

Olive oil that is high in phenols is good for the skin

healthy diet, includes vegetables.

CR is important.

Low dose naltrexone may starve cells of endorphins, which be a form of CR we have not yet identified. Its apparently pretty good, if you can put up with the non heroin addicts version of withdraw.

donate blood, it decreases the amount of iron in your body.(Fenton reaction)

lower you intake of oxidized fats, they are carcinogenic to DNA, = toxic effect to cells.

Uridine, TMG, glycine, C60 = mildly depressing agents, however this is a "good" sign of mitochondrial health, because increased NMDA receptor opening times.

Stay safe

-peace

Edited by anagram, 03 February 2013 - 05:56 AM.

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#2 niner

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 02:30 PM

My comments inline in bold.

-Exercise (increasing need with Age, it increases ROS which destroy AGE's) Reference?
-Resveratrol ( to increase SOD to decrease formation of AGE's or super AGE's) Nonsense.
-C60(maybe take this, and if you do, occasionally. c60 is an extremely potent teratogen) Nonsense.
-Asprin(low dose inhibits lipid peroxidation and gets rid of AGE's) Evidence for the AGE part?
-Carnosine( AGE breaker, very potent because of its specific uptake by cells(looks like an amino acid), little expensive but good all around) Evidence in humans?
-Melatonin (it seems like a complete antioxidant, devoid of AGE breaking ability, however it is good preventative medicine.) Preventitive of what? Is it really a good idea for young people to mess with hormones?
-Acetyl cholinesterase inhibitors( the defining reason why humans live longer is our high Acetyl choline, it dissolves AGE's like brain plaques, cytokines) Reference? This sounds like nonsense.
-Sugar alcohol to kill unwanted bacteria including nano bacteria, which cause immflamation We don't even know that nano bacteria are alive. They are probably crystalloids.


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Posted 03 February 2013 - 05:54 PM

My comments inline in bold.

-Exercise (increasing need with Age, it increases ROS which destroy AGE's) Reference?
-Resveratrol ( to increase SOD to decrease formation of AGE's or super AGE's) Nonsense.
-C60(maybe take this, and if you do, occasionally. c60 is an extremely potent teratogen) Nonsense.
-Asprin(low dose inhibits lipid peroxidation and gets rid of AGE's) Evidence for the AGE part?
-Carnosine( AGE breaker, very potent because of its specific uptake by cells(looks like an amino acid), little expensive but good all around) Evidence in humans?
-Melatonin (it seems like a complete antioxidant, devoid of AGE breaking ability, however it is good preventative medicine.) Preventitive of what? Is it really a good idea for young people to mess with hormones?
-Acetyl cholinesterase inhibitors( the defining reason why humans live longer is our high Acetyl choline, it dissolves AGE's like brain plaques, cytokines) Reference? This sounds like nonsense.
-Sugar alcohol to kill unwanted bacteria including nano bacteria, which cause immflamation We don't even know that nano bacteria are alive. They are probably crystalloids.



good! so don't use any of the supplements I posted then.

When I wrote nano(as in small) bacteria(as in bacteria) what I meant were the ultra micro bacteria which inhabit peoples bodies, not calcifying nano particles, in case you didn't know that you cannot kill crystals( you shouldn't use the term crystalloids, you don't know what you are writing)

btw, where are you getting your barrage of conjectures?

:From niner
"nonsense"
"what?"
"this sounds like nonsense"

Edited by anagram, 03 February 2013 - 06:20 PM.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 07:24 PM

Anagram, half the stuff you post is misleading or wrong. If you can't back it up with some sort of evidence or references, then please don't post it.
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Posted 03 February 2013 - 07:46 PM

Anagram, half the stuff you post is misleading or wrong. If you can't back it up with some sort of evidence or references, then please don't post it.


That being said, your list does include a lot of stuff that LongeCity members ingest or practice.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 10:39 PM

Anagram, half the stuff you post is misleading or wrong. If you can't back it up with some sort of evidence or references, then please don't post it.


What do you mean by misleading? Do you have a theory on how all these things work? If you do then why don't you share because literally all of my posts you have stalked me on, all you have made are conjectures, and not posted a single piece of evidence showing how I am wrong. You post things like "give evidence", "give me a reason why", "that's not true", then when I take the time to post a solid piece of evidence you somehow caulk it up to be wrong (in some cases, even as someone earlier in the post describes the exact same information as me). WTF.
I am not going to waste my time giving you evidence which you can easily look up for yourself on google/longecity. You do know this is a web site where people post BS about indium quackery, the ideas I have are entierly reasonable yet you continue to bother me, - an example is you are asking for evidence that Asprin is antiglycation and anti lipid peroxideation, that is basic stuff man, my god, I am not making that up. If the reason why you are bothering me so much is because you have difficulty connecting the dots of my ideas, then why don't you constructively express that I am wrong, you aren't god and really are required to give some feed back. Christ, get some social skills.
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Posted 08 February 2013 - 04:16 AM

When taking a zinc supplement wouldnt it be best to take a copper supplement as well as to balance the ratios. I started having issues after taking a 333% dv zinc (cant remember mg) with brusing which copper protects against.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 10:42 PM

When taking a zinc supplement wouldnt it be best to take a copper supplement as well as to balance the ratios. I started having issues after taking a 333% dv zinc (cant remember mg) with brusing which copper protects against.


Yes, but not necessarily at the same time - I believe zinc and copper compete for absorption in the small intestine.

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 08:37 PM

Copper supplementation decreased the life span of some organisms. That fact coupled with our un avoidable absorption from our piped water makes me skeptical that anyone should have to take even the daily recommended dose in the form of a supplement. In fact, you should probably try to decrease your absorption of Cu because excess copper may influence Parkinsons development and progression.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:49 AM

So Ive had some adverse side effects from taking some vitamin supps. Would you think i would have any issues with these i can see melatonin being an issue long term?
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 01:22 AM

My comments inline in bold.

-Exercise (increasing need with Age, it increases ROS which destroy AGE's) Reference?
-Resveratrol ( to increase SOD to decrease formation of AGE's or super AGE's) Nonsense.
-C60(maybe take this, and if you do, occasionally. c60 is an extremely potent teratogen) Nonsense.
-Asprin(low dose inhibits lipid peroxidation and gets rid of AGE's) Evidence for the AGE part?
-Carnosine( AGE breaker, very potent because of its specific uptake by cells(looks like an amino acid), little expensive but good all around) Evidence in humans?
-Melatonin (it seems like a complete antioxidant, devoid of AGE breaking ability, however it is good preventative medicine.) Preventitive of what? Is it really a good idea for young people to mess with hormones?
-Acetyl cholinesterase inhibitors( the defining reason why humans live longer is our high Acetyl choline, it dissolves AGE's like brain plaques, cytokines) Reference? This sounds like nonsense.
-Sugar alcohol to kill unwanted bacteria including nano bacteria, which cause immflamation We don't even know that nano bacteria are alive. They are probably crystalloids.


I found some evidence that aspirin prevents the formation of pentosidine. http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/17383766

I was unaware of really anything that could 'break' AGEs. I am under the impression that is all about prevention.

Also, I take 6 mg of melatonin and am only 25. Could it be a bad thing? I suppose. I don't see my endo until late May but I can tell you I do have low testosterone. But I have had some in depth blood testing, everything besides the 334 ng/dl total testosterone is great. Also I can't say for sure but I think the CR I was undergoing for months prior to the test is the culprit (still am but increased caloric intake), will find out in due time.

Nevertheless, I don't think I would want to go without melatonin again. I feel too great from the quality sleep it gives me. Plus I never over sleep on it, 9 hours 15 minutes seems to be my max.

If you have trouble sleeping (guilty), I think there are much worse ways to go about it. And I have tried a lot. Over-exertion (working yourself ragged throughout the day) is my second favorite option.

Not so sure about the rest on there. I do love my carnosine though.

Edited by Bron, 31 March 2013 - 01:36 AM.






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