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[Trias]

currently working (err.. trying at least, if my fat cat would just stop licking my typing fingers!!) on a work to refute many of the claims against the scientific conquest of aging by Hayflick.

I need your help, I have here his book translated to my native language, unfortunately - the translator seemed to have mixed a few things up.
If anyone here has an original copy of Leonard Hayflick's book "How and why we age", I'd appreciate if you could copy or scan a few pages for me. These would be on Chapter two (animals that age, and animals that do not age), I need the everything that is written beneath the title: "Animals that do not age", this is in total about 2 pages. Also, chapters 4,5 and perhaps 6.

Minimal help will also be greatly appreciated!!

-Daniel

[AaronCW]

Funny, I am using that text as a reference for a paper I am writing on the evolutionary origins of senescence/lifespan right now. I will give it a shot on my scanner at home.

Cheers,
Rasputin

[Trias]

Thank you Rasputin!
Like your avatar who's been favorite of the emperor court, you'll be a favorite of mine =)


So when are you coming home?

Thanks again!,
-Daniel S.

[John Schloendorn]

Don't let the man wait, refuting Hayflick is important work! Here, I had a shot with my digicam, if you don't mind my fingers holding the pages... If your cat wants to lick something again, try to offer her the pic ;-) If you want more, please be specific, it's not the whole chapters 4,5,6 is it? By the way, this is the hardcover 1994 edition, pages 21-23.

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[John Schloendorn]

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[Trias]

Thank you John so much!

My work is getting bigger. (110 finished book pages)


Ameliorate, without limits!
-Daniel S.

[Trias]

Hey John,
I'll need to recruit you once again for the noble cause ;-)
If you don't mind, I'll need chapter 4, only the first pages - without part 2 (Aging in Numbers), I need the topics:
"Aging is not a disease", "Normal aging changes", "Causes of death" and "aging related diseases".

I bet these will suffice!
Thank you once again...

[John Schloendorn]

Wow, that sounds awesome! Where exactly are you going with your "work"? I just read some excerpts of the book... You picked a good target to rebut. Some parts I can't help but call deathist propaganda. Have no mercy [pirate]

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[Trias]

Using his own weapons against him.
...

I'll tell you more if you come to ICQ (have already added you),

till then.

Edited by inarchunite, 17 October 2005 - 10:44 AM.