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#1 nickhopton

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Posted 04 June 2005 - 03:49 PM


Hi,

Ive been reading up about nootropics and supplements for quite a while and have purchased the following.

Rhodiola Rosea,
Green Tea Powder,
Chocamine Powder,
L-Tyrosine Powder,
SAMe,
Acetyl-L-Carnitine Powder,
Piracetam
Ashwagandha 4.5% Extract,
Phenibut Powder,
Fo-Ti Powder,
Choline Citrate
GHV (1fast)
Creatine Ethyl Ester HCl,
Idebenone Powder,
Glucuronolactone Powder
Potassium-r-ALA

I have exams coming up and i havn't had time to formulate a regime yet and i was just wondering what i should take out of all the supplements i have before my exams. I don't want to feel sick or anything so i want to err on the side of caution as having a foggy head or lack of concentration during an exam would be a nightmare. But i was just wondering if you had any recomendations for what i should take the morning of the exam (or whenever i should take them).

Your help would be much apreciated. Thanks!

#2 scottl

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Posted 04 June 2005 - 10:06 PM

Before the exam,

A good night's sleep

A high protein b'fast with only e.g. fruit (or other low glycemic index carbs) for b'fast. Skip the pancakes. Oatmeal only is if it slow cooking, not instant.

2-3 grams tyrosine on an empty stomach the day of the exam might be helpful.

You could also add some GHV, choline and acetyl carnitine and basically re-create...I forget if it is neurostim or powerdrive (google them for doses).

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#3 charisma

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Posted 04 June 2005 - 11:45 PM

Rhodeola Rosea and Idebenone are my two new favorites. Big difference, for me at least. And I'm taking Piracetam which I like very much and the GHV you mentioned. And also Acetyl-L-Carnitine, -L-Tyrosine and Alpha-GPC or CDP-choline.

I don't think any of those are too big of a shock to your system, and I think it'd help a lot if you try it.

#4 lynx

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Posted 05 June 2005 - 01:10 AM

Nickhopton, you chose well.

Did you get any Fish Oil? If not, remedy that oversight.

#5 nickhopton

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Posted 05 June 2005 - 09:56 AM

Thanks for the help, scottl and charisma. Scottl why can't i use instant oatmeal, doesn't it provide all the complex carbs or some other essential nutrient?

Thanks for the heads up about a high protein breakfast, i'm just wondering why would this be better then some complex carbs?

Lynx Yes i have fish oil, sorry i forgot to mention it, it's a staple in my diet at around 300mg of epa and dha a day. I couldn't revise for my exams without it, it's a godsend.

#6 lynx

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Posted 05 June 2005 - 01:20 PM

You could up the dose of fish oil quite safely.

#7 nickhopton

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Posted 05 June 2005 - 01:56 PM

Thanks lynx for the suggestion. What dosage would you recommend and what limit is there, i mean how high can you dose fish oil before it becomes innefective?

Sorry for all the questions but it's better to be safe than sorry. :)

#8 scottl

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Posted 05 June 2005 - 03:52 PM

Thanks for the help, scottl and charisma. Scottl why can't i use instant oatmeal, doesn't it provide all the complex carbs or some other essential nutrient?

Thanks for the heads up about a high protein breakfast, i'm just wondering why would this be better then some complex carbs?

Lynx Yes i have fish oil, sorry i forgot to mention it, it's a staple in my diet at around 300mg of epa and dha a day. I couldn't revise for my exams without it, it's a godsend.



Given you want to be as alert as possible a high protein b'fast will do that.

Suffice to say you do not want anything high glycemic (you can google glycemic index for more info) before your test because you do not want your insulin levels and therefore blood sugar levels to fluctuate i.e. drop during your test period. Slow cooking oatmeal has a low glycemic index, instant has a high glycemic index.

The popular concept of "complex carbohydrates" went out the window (to some extent) once people started measuring what foods did to people's blood sugar. The only grains with a low glycemic index are slow cooking oatmeal, whole grain rye and barley (if amaranth, quinona and such have been tested, I am not aware of their glycemic index results). You could do OK by taking e.g. whole wheat pasta eating it al denta and having it with some protein and fat (e.g. olive oil) which would lower the glycemic index of the overall meal. Personally I use lentil pasta. Anyway hope this gives you a start to udnerstandng the process.

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#9 nickhopton

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Posted 05 June 2005 - 04:11 PM

Thanks for the information i was largely unaware of this side of nutrition, i am fairly new to all this as you can see, I'll do some research on this when i have the time, but at the moment i'm meant to be revising. So for breakfast do you think three eggs scrambled with a piece of mellon would be sensible.

Thanks again scottl your knowledge is much apreciated.




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