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[triguy]

Im a sprinter looking into nootropics to aid in recovery of my CNS from all the stress from sprinting, training,etc

[LifeMirage]

Pyritinol and Modafinil can help.

PS 300-500 mg, DHEA 50 mg, and Theanine can also help.

Have any health issues and your age?

[enemy]

Modafinil is banned by the USADA and DHEA, just by it being a hormone is questionable. The others are probably cool.

Of course, if you're not being piss tested (NCAA div. I, II, olympic squad), just disregard everything I just said.

[triguy]

thanx for the reply guys

not tested

Im 34 an healthy, my adrenals are very susceptible to fatigue.

Im the type of athlete that does well with short intense workouts an less frequent than say those high volume guys.

life mirage,
.isnt modanifil a stimulant? how would it aid recovery of CNS?

what about DHEA stimulating not only test but also estrogen? I understood it could possibly stimulate estorgen?

what times shouls i use P.S. and theanine?

[LifeMirage]

life mirage,
.isnt modanifil a stimulant? how would it aid recovery of CNS?

While is a considered a stimulant, it resensitizes receptors in the brain.

what about DHEA stimulating not only test but also estrogen? I understood it could possibly stimulate estorgen?

Perhaps in very high does (over 100 mg) taken every day but this is easy to prevent by keeping your blood level below 560 and taking only 25-50 mg.

what times shouls i use P.S. and theanine?

Right before an intensive workout.

[brooklynjuice]

life mirage,
.isnt modanifil a stimulant? how would it aid recovery of CNS?

While is a considered a stimulant, it resensitizes receptors in the brain.

Does Adrafinil have this effect as well? In either case (mona or adra) do you have any links that support this as I find that claim VERY interesting.

Thank you for your time.

[lancelot]

life mirage,
.isnt modanifil a stimulant? how would it aid recovery of CNS?

While is a considered a stimulant, it resensitizes receptors in the brain.

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Where did you hear that? i don't think it's a "healthy" drug to use daily nor do i consider it a nootropic.

[wannafulfill]

I don't have any desire to try modafinil, for one.

Edited by wannafulfill, 12 June 2005 - 07:31 PM.

[LifeMirage]

This has been my experience with those who had been on SSRI's and other drugs for years. After taking it for 3-6 months most saw an improvement.

[jeromewilson]

Hi LifeMirage. Can I conclude from what you said above, regarding SSRIs and modafinil, that long term SSRI use can lead to desensitised receptors resulting in descreasing effectiveness of the antidepressants and the likelihood that, following termination of the treatment, the depression will return?

One of my biggest goals at the moment is to come off SSRIs for good - I've been taking them for the past 8 years, on and off, first paroxetine (Paxil) and then escitalopram (Lexapro) - they're certainly effective but they do seem to taper off, and they definitely don't help with my lack of energy during the day.

Do you think that modafinil could possibly be a worthwhile option for me to look into? Any other pointers for reversing any adverse effects from long term SSRI use, and staving off the blues? I'd be really grateful for any advice

Jerome

P.S. Cripes, I've just noticed the price of modafinil - that would be £50 a month (from QHI) which is pretty steep. Could adrafinil be a viable alternative, or would that be a false economy?

Edited by jeromewilson, 12 June 2005 - 09:26 PM.

[lancelot]

This has been my experience with those who had been on SSRI's and other drugs for years. After taking it for 3-6 months most saw an improvement.

I can see that people REPLACING SSRI's with monafinil can show mental improvements. That i can believe because SSRI's are bad news in the long run IMPO. However, normal healthy adults that don't need monafinil for any health conditions should not be taking it daily as a nootropic as i've heard many bad feedbacks about declining mental functions over the same amount of time you've posted.

[jeromewilson]

Hmm, that's a bit depressing Any thoughts LM?

[LifeMirage]

I can see that people REPLACING SSRI's with monafinil can show mental improvements. That i can believe because SSRI's are bad news in the long run IMPO. However, normal healthy adults that don't need monafinil for any health conditions should not be taking it daily as a nootropic as i've heard many bad feedbacks about declining mental functions over the same amount of time you've posted.

SSRI's are bad new period.

People who gave you feedback probably took other drugs with it or did not adjust the dose right. Studies show it safe and effective when used properly.

[lancelot]

By the way, i have two boxes of modafinil under the modalert 200 brand, 200mg/pill, Mgf. date 11/2004, and Exp date 10/2006. If anyone is interested, i can trade with you 1 box of modafinil #50/200mg for liquid deprenyl or maybe something else hard to get. domestic only and i am willing to ship first if you are a vet member here. PM or email.

[triguy]

any new supps or nootropics to aid in CNS recovery?


I am using l-theanine, bacopa, ashwaghanda, rhodiola for cns & general recovery.

....hesitant to use modafinil for fear of sleep disturbances. I nap from 12;-1pm & sleep from 9pm-6:30