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[anonymous.0]

Noticed newstar has it in stock, and not too expensive.
Any experience reports yet?

http://www.newstarno....com/idra21.php

[Nattzor]

Use the other threads, no need to post a new.

[anonymous.0]

I read through the other one, but it's just postings for a group buy. No real experience reports.

[p3x888]

I took 10mg today and had absolutely no effects. For me, nothing happened. I will try increasing the dose slowly to 25mg to see if I have anything. I am 350 pounds so that may be why the lower dosage didn't have any effect on me.

[telight]

I read through the other one, but it's just postings for a group buy. No real experience reports.

Go to the last page, I posted my report their. Btw, I took a much higher (10mg) dose just now.

[Reformed-Redan]

I took around 30mg today and felt a slight headache and pressure at the base of my head. Kind of strange. Though I was formulating concepts really well. Like it came without much effort to make ideas come together.

[YOLF]

I took 10mg today and had absolutely no effects. For me, nothing happened. I will try increasing the dose slowly to 25mg to see if I have anything. I am 350 pounds so that may be why the lower dosage didn't have any effect on me.

350 obese or 350 muscle?

[p3x888]

obese

[YOLF]

I took around 30mg today and felt a slight headache and pressure at the base of my head. Kind of strange. Though I was formulating concepts really well. Like it came without much effort to make ideas come together.

Anything that can be done to combat the headaches? Can't be good for you if it's causing headaches. Maybe lower doses would be better?

[anonymous.0]

I read through the other one, but it's just postings for a group buy. No real experience reports.

Go to the last page, I posted my report their. Btw, I took a much higher (10mg) dose just now.

Will do.

I took around 30mg today and felt a slight headache and pressure at the base of my head. Kind of strange. Though I was formulating concepts really well. Like it came without much effort to make ideas come together.

I've noticed this same affect from every racetam I've tried. How have you responded to aniracetam or pramiracetam?

[xks201]

The study showing jt was frying neurons scared me off.

[gnappi]

Here is cheaper than NSN:
http://nootropicsdepot.com/idra-21/

[Introspecta]

Has anyone ever ordered from that site? I noticed they have Coluracetam and Octopamine. What the F is Octopamine,lol

[gnappi]

Has anyone ever ordered from that site? I noticed they have Coluracetam and Octopamine. What the F is Octopamine,lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octopamine

[anonymous.0]

The study showing jt was frying neurons scared me off.

What?
This doesn't sound like it should be a nootropic.

[MikeBurns]

What?
This doesn't sound like it should be a nootropic.

I would suggest digging a little deeper before making claims like that. Allow me to help you. Forgive me. I'm an educator. It's what I do. What do we know so far? Octopamine is very similar to norepinephrine (or noradrenaline, if you prefer). If you check medscape for article 523881_4 you will see that norepinephrine is the substance most responsible for "sustained concentration" (also known as "vigilance"). You should also be aware that it is differentiated from dopamine which is most responsible for "alertness" and serotonin which is responsible for "satisfaction". To put this in terms of the familiar, Modafinil is a noradrenergic, dopaminergic, and serotonergic. This is exactly why it has been successfully used to help individuals with ADHD. Any substance that has an ability to promote attention, alertness, and satisfaction is certainly worthy of being called a nootropic. I suppose that since norepinephrine is "just" an aid to sustaining attention, it might not meet everyone's expectations of what a nootropic is and does. My blanket is a little bit bigger than that and covers norepinephrine by itself as well as any other compounds that act in a similar fashion to produce similar effects. So, since octopamine is similar to norepinephrine and they both elicit a "vigilance" response, I believe it is safe to consider it a nootropic. But then again, it's all just a name. The real question is not whether it is to be called a nootropic but whether or not it helps you personally.

[ken_shiro]

Here is cheaper than NSN:
http://nootropicsdepot.com/idra-21/

Is this site reliable??

[Ekscentra]

Read my report in the main IDRA-21 thread. This substance is not a nootropic after the 2 month mark. I've been taking it twice a week on and off for 2 months before experiencing some of the worst mental sides I've ever experienced from a substance. Toxic opiates, Benedryl, benzos, etc...none can touch the dangerous effects I've experienced from IDRA. The effects came on very unexpectedly, but they're very real. For anyone taking IDRA, it's important to know what this substance can do to you after a certain period of time. The benefits only last for so long.

[nanook]

Read my report in the main IDRA-21 thread. This substance is not a nootropic after the 2 month mark. I've been taking it twice a week on and off for 2 months before experiencing some of the worst mental sides I've ever experienced from a substance. Toxic opiates, Benedryl, benzos, etc...none can touch the dangerous effects I've experienced from IDRA. The effects came on very unexpectedly, but they're very real. For anyone taking IDRA, it's important to know what this substance can do to you after a certain period of time. The benefits only last for so long.

 

I have been on it longer than two months and have only positive effects thus far.  Might be an issue of you taking too much, taking it in combination with something else with which it has negative interactions, weird genetics, etc. For me, I take Lyrica for diabetic neuropathy pain.  Lyrica really screwed my memory up big time.  PRL-8-53 reduced that about 90% but still I had occasional times when I needed a word or a computer command and it just would not come to me.  IRDA-21 eliminated about 99% of the remainder of that.  I have not seen any changes in it's effects with time.  I've not had to increase the dosage, (I am taking about 10mg, aim for 5 but scale is weird).  I note that you are completely non-descriptive in what these horrible side effects you are experiencing are?

Edited by nanook, 01 November 2017 - 10:49 PM.