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Is this very quick tolerance? Racetams

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#1 Mens

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 09:26 AM


Hello friends,

A couple months ago I tried aniracetam and oxiracetam with succes. It felt like it opened up my brain for the first time of my life to full capacity. Making connections that normally would be very hard. Next level conversation and next level studying. I am glad I did not post my ... is a miracle topic as it sadly only worked for a couple of days but never again. Aniracetam worked very good for reading and especially writing and oxiracetam for math.

Piracetam did nothing for me by the way. Noopept did nothing for me as well. Pramiracetam did something for sure but not what one would expect, words mixed up in sentences when reading. Every time it worked this happened. But also the same tolerance window. Three/four days and not working anymore. Very strange.

In the last months I tried different kinds of supplementation with aniracetam or oxiracetam withouth succes. So my question is, did I experience a very quickly buildup of tolerance? Any other suggestions?

Edited by Mens, 16 December 2013 - 09:27 AM.


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Posted 16 December 2013 - 02:18 PM

Try fasting (intermittent) for at least 18 hours then dose again and see what happens. Could be something in your diet or one of a million other things stopping the effects. Or could be that the first effects were placebos. Have you tried dosing sublingually?

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 03:58 PM

Original research warning: it seems to me that the effect is dampened or even reversed if you find yourself depleted of ACTH and/or serotonin. (Overdosing had a similar effect on me.)
Try adding a weak cholinesterase inhibitor and serotonergic. Personally I use huperzine A for the former and 5-HTP for the latter.

Edited by AstralStorm, 16 December 2013 - 04:00 PM.


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Posted 16 December 2013 - 09:17 PM

Or could be that the first effects were placebos.


I want to rule this out as I did not experience any effects with noopept and piracetam. Random placebo effect is not very likely.

Have you tried dosing sublingually?


Yes, with no effect. I might try this again.

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 09:22 PM

Original research warning: it seems to me that the effect is dampened or even reversed if you find yourself depleted of ACTH and/or serotonin. (Overdosing had a similar effect on me.)
Try adding a weak cholinesterase inhibitor and serotonergic. Personally I use huperzine A for the former and 5-HTP for the latter.


Interesting, it's exactly what happened. It went from working well to working less and finally the effects were even a bit reversed. To be clear beneath my baseline.

I can understand why you suggest huperzine A, I might try this simultaneous with ani or oxi. Can you explain why you suggest a supplement for increasing serotonin? I know at least Aniracetam has some effect on serotonin but if low in serotonin you would notice this daily right?

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Posted 06 October 2016 - 09:48 PM

 

Original research warning: it seems to me that the effect is dampened or even reversed if you find yourself depleted of ACTH and/or serotonin. (Overdosing had a similar effect on me.)
Try adding a weak cholinesterase inhibitor and serotonergic. Personally I use huperzine A for the former and 5-HTP for the latter.


Interesting, it's exactly what happened. It went from working well to working less and finally the effects were even a bit reversed. To be clear beneath my baseline.

I can understand why you suggest huperzine A, I might try this simultaneous with ani or oxi. Can you explain why you suggest a supplement for increasing serotonin? I know at least Aniracetam has some effect on serotonin but if low in serotonin you would notice this daily right?

 

Hi Mens!

Just wondering how was your adventures with the racetams...

Your case is the most similar to mine that could find all over the internet.

 

I don't know what to do to make the racetams I tried to work again. The just work an only day, just more or less two weeks after the last attempt.

 

This is a briefing of what I tried:

 

1. Noopept: Tried for two weeks at a wide variety of doses and ROAs. Then stopped.

Started the Piracetam days before drop Noopept out and tried for two weeks as well. The funny thing is that 3 or 4 days later, tried Noopept again and "BOOM" it kicked in a lot, the best description I can write, is: "A deep understanding of how beautifully the universe works" I guess the true meditation sensation is like this. This is the only racetam that gave me the Ultra HD Vision, was true and not placebo of the community, as some say, lol!

 

2. Piracetam: After the two weeks on it without any success, stopped several days, cannot remember how many... and then one night on Tianeptine sodium tried just one 1,2 g pill, and knew that it worked at last. I was in peace, nothing about verbal fluency or super memory or anything like that, just peace... I was truly happy without that shadow that keeps me freeze and numb all my life... It was like an airflow leaked through two opened windows into my brain. Pure  and simple pleasure that I got the next morning. Nothing worried me and I was doing my stuff quite happy... but... the next day, the magic had gone... and of course, with a two week sober interval, took 1,2 again and, the magic came back, but you know for how long...

 

3. Aniracetam: I tried at 09:30 am as the parcel came. Did nothing. Repeated at 14:30 and OH MAN! was like a line of the best cocaine I've tried in my whole life. AWESOME!. The drawback is that it lasted just like a cocaine snort and had to redose constantly. It gave me the creeps and wondered if it will be the same as before. Bingo! Next day didn't work and it never did again.

 

4. Oxiracetam: Got it in the same order that Ani. Tried the day after the Ani and didn't work. Tried a few days more but inconsistently. Maybe I need a whole 2 weeks cycle sober of racetams to get 'em work and just for one day. In that case, just noopept worths it, in a recreational way.

 

The point is: What is happening here? Sounds like we share the kinda same problem.

 

I bought Phosphatyilserine to try in case of adrenal fatigue. Tried L-Glutamic acid, which really helped with the horrible irritability that had in occasions (I wonder if is choline depletion or what...I tried even to get grams of choline bitartrate in one intake, no depression, no nothing by the way) but not activating the racetam engine. Didn't try calcium... But I really doubt this is any of that cases.

 

I wonder what will happen if I try Prami, Colu of Faso, which the two latter tempted me the more regarding their creative and motivational effects (don't wanna be a Prami asshole robot).

 

Hope you can help me or at least tell me what did you do on that matter.

 

Thanks a lot to you and everyone who can say anything.







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