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[dunbar]

I'd be interested to know which prescription drugs and or supplements
are helpful for creative stuff like for example writing?

[telight]

LSD.

[telight]

Double post :/

Edited by telight, 28 December 2013 - 10:52 PM.

[Ekscentra]

As mentioned, nothing works better than LSD for what you're looking for. Cannabis and shrooms work excellently as well. However, in terms of legally obtainable substances, Noopept and Aniracetam may serve you well in this department, both in combo or individually.

It's obviously not an encouraged practice on these boards, but if you have a relatively safe way to obtain the first three substances I've mentioned and you're serious about your goals, I'd recommend doing so. The legal alternatives, in this case, simply won't compare. They may offer you some significant degree of improvement, but nowhere approaching the level of most psychedelic substances.

[dunbar]

I heard that before LSD became forbidden scientists took it and then tried to solve problems.
But I don't think it's really safe. What if you take it and develop a serious mental disorder? I don't think I'd be willing to try this.

[theconomist]

You won't develop a mental disorder by using LSD.

I suggest Noopept in large doses. I've taken 300 mg before and I can assure you that at that dose your mind is absolutely racing with ideas and patterns, sometimes waay too complex to put in words. It's incredible for abstract thinking, you feel like you just want a very large board where you can try to express what's happening in your head. It's the sort of experience that you live, enjoy and wake up next morning THEN try to put into words what you experienced.

[thomasthomas]

Aniracetam is a good choice.

I don't think it's really responsible to recommend taking 300mg of Noopept or LSD.

LSD, especially, should not be taken lightly.

[theconomist]

Aniracetam is a good choice.

I don't think it's really responsible to recommend taking 300mg of Noopept or LSD.

LSD, especially, should not be taken lightly.

I did not say he should take it. There is no denying that it works however.
Same thing goes for noopept.

[nowayout]

Nothing sibstitutes for STYDYING, PRACTISING AND LEARNING A LOT about your field. Whatever the field, to become good at it you need to put in an estimated 10 000 hours in study amd practice. There are no shortcuts, sorry to say.

The claim that LSD helps you be a better scientist is hogwash, by the way. And LSD-inspired art tends to be all the same, which is unsurprising given the fact that hallucinations tend to have the same basic elements based on the mechanics of the human visualnprocessing system. It may have been new in the 60s. It is not original any more.

[dunbar]

I've taken 300 mg before and I can assure you that at that dose your mind is absolutely racing with ideas and patterns, sometimes waay too complex to put in words. It's incredible for abstract thinking, you feel like you just want a very large board where you can try to express what's happening in your head. It's the sort of experience that you live, enjoy and wake up next morning THEN try to put into words what you experienced.

That sounds a little scary. What if the racing doesn't stop anymore or you go insane or suddenly feel like jumping out of a window?

Or what if you start to think about things which scare you or depress you? I have seen docs where tribal people chew on herbs and then they feel miserable
and are confronted with all kinds of things which make them feel guilty it's supposed to be a cleansing process or something.

When you take noopept do you really come up with new ideas or solutions to problems you didn't have before?

[theconomist]

I've taken 300 mg before and I can assure you that at that dose your mind is absolutely racing with ideas and patterns, sometimes waay too complex to put in words. It's incredible for abstract thinking, you feel like you just want a very large board where you can try to express what's happening in your head. It's the sort of experience that you live, enjoy and wake up next morning THEN try to put into words what you experienced.

That sounds a little scary. What if the racing doesn't stop anymore or you go insane or suddenly feel like jumping out of a window?

Or what if you start to think about things which scare you or depress you? I have seen docs where tribal people chew on herbs and then they feel miserable
and are confronted with all kinds of things which make them feel guilty it's supposed to be a cleansing process or something.

When you take noopept do you really come up with new ideas or solutions to problems you didn't have before?

1- Very unlikely, it's a safe compound based on the info we've got about it. Doesn't cause insanity, no hallucinations either, it's hard to explain what it does at high dosage in words because you stop thinking in words, it all becomes very abstract yet it makes perfect sense.
2- Possible but unlikely, it's more of a ''I can see clearly now that the rain is gone'' feeling. Which is why I prefer it to hallucinogens which can take you on a very rough ride.
3-Yes. It's a very eye opening experience but based on my experience it wouldn't work for everything, if you have a concrete problem it won't help much, for abstract ideas it's perfect; art, philosophy, physics etc. If you have a task which requires you to CREATE it can work very very well. For concrete issues I prefer sunifiram+oxiracetam.

[platypus]

Two Nobel prize winners have credited LSD for having contributed positively to their research. I would not write psychedelics off just yet.

[pseudonamed]

I was just reading about creativity in the latest scientific american "Mind" magazine. From what I gathered, successful creative people are good at shifting from being really open and non-judging, then later being more analytical and goal-oriented (in order to successfully 'create' their idea). So what might help could depend on which aspect one has trouble with.

Mild relaxants and anti-anxiety meds might help someone stop worrying that their ideas are bad and allow them to play with ideas longer, but overdoing it would make you too distracted/tired.

Personally I do think psychedelics can be helpful, but not to do too often, just small amounts now and then, and done purposefully (in a calm, safe environments where you have your art/writing tools available and other inspirations to play around with.) If you've never done them, it's best to try it with someone experienced the first time. Some people can freak out, you might do to much, etc.

[dunbar]

I just saw that nootropicsltd sells all these substances on ebay. That's pretty cool.
But I really don't thnik I'd dare to mess with stuff like that. I mean are these substances tested for long term safety or is it known what they do in the brain?

For example when I'd go to the pharmacy and buy piracetam with a prescription then it would come with a leaflet which lists side effects, drug interactions and all this stuff.
But when you buy the same stuff as powder from a supplement company you get none of that and think it's perfectly harmless. That's also what scares me about nootropics
cause you can't really feel safe and know what the risks are. And since I already have psychiatric issues (anxiety,depression) I have no clue what could happen if I started to mess
with stuff like that. Sounds a little like a receipt for disaster. And psychiatrists usually don't know much about nootropics so I also couldn't ask my doc if I could take any of that.