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[eon]

The average price I've seen is $30 for a 30 pill, 4.5 mg. The daily dosage is said to be 9mg split twice daily. So this supply will only be good for 15 days. I'd be spending $60 a month then if I want to use hydergine for 1 month. I've seen this sold in bulk powder by some Chinese supplier but you have to buy in bulk amount and I have no clue of its quality or purity. I guess it's best to try hydergine first then see if I like it before I make a big purchase? I just think it's time to try something different is why I'm looking into hydergine.

[pedr0vsky]

I am too, interested in a good cheap source of hydergine. If you find one, please share it with us...

[thomasthomas]

http://www.qhi.co.uk/

[eon]

haven't heard of this company. Seems like they are selling generics? Maybe I should try the Hydergine produced by Novartis (the original) first before I go with this generic form, (if it is generic). The prices look good though. I hope they ship to U.S. I'm sure they all buy their powders from China anyway.

[eon]

what's a good cycle length for hydergine? Not many people here ever talk about how long they take a specific nootropic for and how long they stay off it. I have the habit of finishing up a bottle or a bag of whatever it is I am taking. Hydergine is good to take year-round or what? I know piracetam is said to "peak" in a few weeks so cycling off it is a good idea then start another cycle of it after taking a break from it.

Edited by eon, 21 January 2014 - 11:02 AM.

[iago]

You generally don't need 9mg. 4.5 per day should do. More may even give you a headache.

As for suppliers, for reasons they didn't explain to me, qhi said that the Novartis FAS that they used to stock is unavailable. They now only sell this 100 euro hydergine FAS. Considering it was something like 30 euros for 60 not so long ago, this price is too high.

Nubrain stocks hydergine. Although their customer service leaves something to be desired, they are generally trustworthy. http://new.nubrain.com/shop/

Iron Dragon also sells hydergine, but in liquid form. I don't really know whether they are a good company or not. Anyway, they are even more expensive than qhi! http://www.iron-drag...3cca66e18c9cd24

[lourdaud]

You generally don't need 9mg. 4.5 per day should do. More may even give you a headache.

As for suppliers, for reasons they didn't explain to me, qhi said that the Novartis FAS that they used to stock is unavailable. They now only sell this 100 euro hydergine FAS. Considering it was something like 30 euros for 60 not so long ago, this price is too high.

Nubrain stocks hydergine. Although their customer service leaves something to be desired, they are generally trustworthy. http://new.nubrain.com/shop/

Iron Dragon also sells hydergine, but in liquid form. I don't really know whether they are a good company or not. Anyway, they are even more expensive than qhi! http://www.iron-drag...3cca66e18c9cd24

I've looked around and this seems indeed to be the case: Hydergine 1 mg is going of the market! :O
Hydergine FAS is still available though but yeah it seems expensive.
This 100 euro Hydergine FAS that QHI offers, how many mg's are we talking about? And by 30 euros for 60, do you mean for 60 1 mg tabs?

[eon]

Someone is selling 1mg hydergine? I thought standard dose come in 4.5mg?

[eon]

there is a liquid form of hydergine that I read about and increments of 0.5 mg can be taken and is easily absorbed. anyone here ever tried this form?

[eon]

well the rumor is true that novartis has stopped making hydergine. Hopefully some other pharmaceutical company will pick up where it left off. Isn't nicergoline another good ergoloid derivative similar to hydergine?

[iago]

You generally don't need 9mg. 4.5 per day should do. More may even give you a headache.

As for suppliers, for reasons they didn't explain to me, qhi said that the Novartis FAS that they used to stock is unavailable. They now only sell this 100 euro hydergine FAS. Considering it was something like 30 euros for 60 not so long ago, this price is too high.

Nubrain stocks hydergine. Although their customer service leaves something to be desired, they are generally trustworthy. http://new.nubrain.com/shop/

Iron Dragon also sells hydergine, but in liquid form. I don't really know whether they are a good company or not. Anyway, they are even more expensive than qhi! http://www.iron-drag...3cca66e18c9cd24

I've looked around and this seems indeed to be the case: Hydergine 1 mg is going of the market! :O
Hydergine FAS is still available though but yeah it seems expensive.
This 100 euro Hydergine FAS that QHI offers, how many mg's are we talking about? And by 30 euros for 60, do you mean for 60 1 mg tabs?

It used to be around 30 euros for 60 4.5mg FAS tablets. I have never actually come across 1mg tablets aside from on some dodgy Canadian pharmacy website. You can still look on the qhi website for the most recent prices/quantities. I believe it's 4.5 mg at any rate.

Also, nicergoline is indeed another derivative. I did not find it to be useful. Hydergine on the other hand is the best nootropic I've taken. Although very different, I'd rank noopept just below it.

Edited by iago, 06 March 2014 - 06:32 AM.

[eon]

nicergoline is more expensive than hydergine, not sure why. My experience with noopept was that I didn't even really notice anything. Most people would say it is "subtle", so it's tricky. I liked Piracetam. I just ordered some Hydergine. Hope to get it soon as it is coming from South Africa. Vasopressin is something I had been looking into as well, it is a nasal spray nootropic. I don't know much about it right now. Hopefully hydergine gets produced by another company cheaper perhaps "generic". The liquid form would be nice as well, I think Novartis had the liquid form.

[lourdaud]

It used to be around 30 euros for 60 4.5mg FAS tablets. I have never actually come across 1mg tablets aside from on some dodgy Canadian pharmacy website. You can still look on the qhi website for the most recent prices/quantities. I believe it's 4.5 mg at any rate.

Also, nicergoline is indeed another derivative. I did not find it to be useful. Hydergine on the other hand is the best nootropic I've taken. Although very different, I'd rank noopept just below it.

Nope, neither I find nicergoline very useful.. Good vasodilator but that's about it.
Hydergine is almost the best noot I've ever tried as well, second only to cerebrolysin and, perhaps, modafinil.

nicergoline is more expensive than hydergine, not sure why. My experience with noopept was that I didn't even really notice anything. Most people would say it is "subtle", so it's tricky. I liked Piracetam. I just ordered some Hydergine. Hope to get it soon as it is coming from South Africa. Vasopressin is something I had been looking into as well, it is a nasal spray nootropic. I don't know much about it right now. Hopefully hydergine gets produced by another company cheaper perhaps "generic". The liquid form would be nice as well, I think Novartis had the liquid form.

Nicergoline is dirt cheap in poor Asian countries though.
What South African store did you buy it from and how much did it cost, if I may ask?

One could also try LSD/phenetylamines in microdoses. Should produce a similar effect.

[eon]

Is nicergoline really cheap in asian countries? Curious how this is? I would think all the powders are Chinese made therefore everyone would kinda sell it around the same price? I read somewhere that in Mexico you can get Hydergine over the counter.

Biogenesis Antiaging is the store I ordered Hydergine from. It's about $28 for 30 pills, 4.5 mg. There is another store but is shipping from the U.K. and selling it for $35 so I went with the South African store.

Are you saying combining LSD with phenythylamine or use one or the other? I have PEA which is phenythylamine. I haven't used it yet though. I read it's like amphetamine so maybe it is. Modafinil is probably in the same league as well but speedier. Have you ever tried the nasal spray Vasopressin?

I would guess the effects of Hydergine is instant like LSD meaning I won't have to wait a few days for it to be noticeable? I can't wait to try it. It's been on my list of nootropics to try but got more into neutraceutical types of nootropics like Piracetam, etc.

Edited by eon, 07 March 2014 - 05:17 AM.

[eon]

ok so I received my hydergine order from biogenesis antiaging. I haven't tried it yet. Seems like they get it from a pharmaceutical from Portugal as the name is "hydergina".

There is some unusual activity with my bank account though. Someone just placed orders of "anti aging products" from another website so I am assuming there is a connection between biogenesis antiaging and whoever else had access to my card numbers. Not sure if this is common when using credit cards to order goods from overseas especially South Africa. The company I ordered it from is South African based. Not sure if they had anything to do with this or it's that easy to steal someone's card numbers in South Africa by way of hacking. I will call my bank.

Edited by eon, 28 March 2014 - 07:45 AM.

[eon]

curious why there is contraindication from using hydergine with people with psychosis? The info. was from an old book in the 1980's so of course information change all the time. Arginine as well is  said to have contraindication with schizophrenia. I thought arginine is nothing more than a "workout" enhancer, so why does it have anything to do with "brain" related?

[psych0therapist]

curious why there is contraindication from using hydergine with people with psychosis? The info. was from an old book in the 1980's so of course information change all the time. Arginine as well is  said to have contraindication with schizophrenia. I thought arginine is nothing more than a "workout" enhancer, so why does it have anything to do with "brain" related?

How was your experience with Hydergine?