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best nootropic to make the brain as "plastic" as possible

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#1 Rewire

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 10:04 AM


Hi,

I recently began an experiment where i want to change my brain to get used to slow entertainments (books, conversations, etc), it si currently is wired for movies, series and other types of fast entertainment. I wonder which (if any) nootropics could speed up this process? Does nootropics like coluracetam or oxiracetam make your brain more "plastic" for the period you use them?

 

If anyone is interested, i am "blogging" about this experiment in my introductory post in this forum. I hope writing about it will keep me motivated.



#2 telight

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 04:20 PM

FGL peptide makes the brain more plastic, but is currently unavaliable due to high cost. Your best bet would probably be something like cerebrolysin. You have to remember that your brain is still plastic at any age, and can change based on task especially if you give that task strong attention and focus as hard as possible on the task your are trying to complete. The best way to "get used"  to books is to read lots books forcing yourself not to stop or quit and trying to improve on how long you can keep your attention to the reading task. Maybe just starting out you can only read for 10 minutes before you lose focus and interest, next time your read force yourself to do a little more, say 15 minutes and so on, keep pushing for improvement in small steps and eventually you're reading books for hours non-stop. There is no nootropic that will substitute for extensive stimulus exposure which is absolutely necessary to building the efficient circuits that you want in your brain.


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#3 Rewire

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Posted 19 May 2014 - 10:49 AM

Hi, thanks for your answer. I just read a bunch of info on FGL peptide, seems very interesting indeed. But as you said, way too expensive. Thanks for enlightening me about the compound though. Yea, I know that the brain are even plastic in adults, but after reading the book “the brain that change itself” I got a bit depressed when reading about how much more plastic the brain is when we are young. And that language learning at later life isnt even happening in the same place it did when growing up.



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Posted 19 May 2014 - 03:35 PM

Having a hyper-plastic brain could easily lead to two undesirable outcomes: a) inability to store knowledge for a long period of time (this is why older children and adults cannot remember much detail from childhood years before ages of 6 or 7); b) neo-plastic tumour (outcome of uncontrolled plasticity and growth of neurons). Careful what you wish for...
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Posted 20 May 2014 - 03:24 PM

Having a hyper-plastic brain could easily lead to two undesirable outcomes: a) inability to store knowledge for a long period of time (this is why older children and adults cannot remember much detail from childhood years before ages of 6 or 7); b) neo-plastic tumour (outcome of uncontrolled plasticity and growth of neurons). Careful what you wish for...

 

Hi Geoffrey, out of interest (not asking for medical advice), do you think something like the Mr Happy Stack + say oxyacetam could cause neo-plastic tumors? Or would drugs like cerebrolysin or rasagiline (induces GDNF and up-rgulates bcl-2) be more of a concern?

 

Finally, could a decent curcumin supplement like theracurmin, or bcm-95 with a bit of black pepper help to prevent these tumors by down-regulating bcl-2?


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Posted 21 May 2014 - 05:36 AM

The idea of neuroplasticity is greatly oversimplified. Plasticity of the brain is more of a measurement of change than anything. Hold your breath until you pass out a couple of times and you will find the measurement of plasticity as the change of networks in your brain will be great. 

 

Useful neuroplasticity is nothing something that can be simply stated. Neuroplasticity in the effect of enhanced memory storage, and enhanced cognition, would be the result of their being a great improvement in the functioning of several different brain faculties. How this can be achieved will of course vary person to person, but there isn't really a single answer that will work for everyone. This is one of the biggest pioneering fields of this modern age.... attempting to understand how we can master the brain.

 

Too bad the yogis figured it out decades ago.







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