Ok, I've got one!
If we're not supposed to eat animals, how come they're made out of meat?
-- Rick
Cannibal: "If we're not supposed to eat people, how come they're made out of meat?"
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Posted 06 October 2005 - 03:52 PM
Ok, I've got one!
If we're not supposed to eat animals, how come they're made out of meat?
-- Rick
Posted 06 October 2005 - 04:15 PM
Ok, I've got one!
If we're not supposed to eat animals, how come they're made out of meat?
-- Rick
Cannibal: "If we're not supposed to eat people, how come they're made out of meat?"
[tung]
Posted 06 October 2005 - 06:18 PM
Lack of eating...animal protein will impair the health of a significant proportion of the population
Posted 06 October 2005 - 08:05 PM
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Posted 06 October 2005 - 09:18 PM
My apologies.
I am a physician and have been working with and advising people for many years. My body and a number of people I know and have worked with thrives much better eating a higherprotein/lower carb diet. That is my experience. If there are no studies...oh well.
There is something called.....metabolic typing.
...In any case experience always trumps theory, however nice the theory, and no matter who's it is (including mine).
I didn't feel a nutritionist was necessary as likely many people on the board are capable of creating a veggie diet with sufficient protein.
Oh and FYI: if you believe nutritionists are a source of useful information....well good luck. They will shorten the life of any diabetic significantly.
Posted 06 October 2005 - 09:46 PM
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Posted 07 October 2005 - 12:10 AM
Another good reason to avoid animal products is the fact that most meat animals are given antibiotics and hormones in their feed. This goes into the meat, beef, chicken and so on. I don't have a link handy for you but it's a well known fact. You also have a possibility of picking up an antibiotic resistant bug due to farm animals being a darwinian breeding ground for those diseases. Oh, and last but not least.... mad cow disease.
Posted 07 October 2005 - 12:31 AM
Why is it that people who eat animals feel no need to tell other people how to eat, but people who don't eat meat....
Posted 07 October 2005 - 12:51 AM
Please see vegetarian thread. It takes too long to explain and I don't wish to type it all out again.
30 second version: there is no one diet best for everyone. Some do better on higher protein diets (think caveman), some on higher carb diets, some on mixed. This is the real world experience of people. Avoiding eating animals for....whatever reason is fine...unless your body has other ideas.
"For the record, I believe that many people today have poor nutritional knowledge"
For the record, I believe that many vegetarians wish to shove their "morally superior diet" down the throat of everyone just as the woman in my signature wishes to impose her wishes on all of us. Allah willing [lol] neither of you will get your way.
Posted 07 October 2005 - 12:59 AM
Please see vegetarian thread. It takes too long to explain and I don't wish to type it all out again.
30 second version: there is no one diet best for everyone. Some do better on higher protein diets (think caveman), some on higher carb diets, some on mixed. This is the real world experience of people. Avoiding eating animals for....whatever reason is fine...unless your body has other ideas.
"For the record, I believe that many people today have poor nutritional knowledge"
For the record, I believe that many vegetarians wish to shove their "morally superior diet" down the throat of everyone just as the woman in my signature wishes to impose her wishes on all of us. Allah willing [lol] neither of you will get your way.
Yeah yeah. I'm tired of people bashing vegetarians as much as meat-chowers are tired of the former's stereotypes they no longer wish to update. I hate even telling "carnies" that I'm a vegetarian, because they get all "OH! Well...WHY is that? Are you anemic?" etc. And not everyone can afford your free-range meats. scottl, you've got to work on your bedside manner there, "Doctor". You're shoving your condescending and typical hyper-critical viewpoint down my throat. I never said a preachy word about being vegetarian, and never do. I didn't ask for your free diet analysis, all I wanted was some info on the Phosphatidyl Serine and my stack. Can you maybe do that, or is this too "PC" for you?
Posted 07 October 2005 - 08:11 PM
Posted 07 October 2005 - 08:39 PM
But wouldn't vegetarians be essentially the same as the farm animals? Basically, concentrating pesticides, chem fertilizers and so on in their tissues?... What about the pesticides, chem fertilizers and so on used to grow the hay, grain and etc that farm animals eat? It's a well known fact that animals high on the food chain concentrate these things in their tissues...
Posted 07 October 2005 - 09:33 PM
But wouldn't vegetarians be essentially the same as the farm animals? Basically, concentrating pesticides, chem fertilizers and so on in their tissues?... What about the pesticides, chem fertilizers and so on used to grow the hay, grain and etc that farm animals eat? It's a well known fact that animals high on the food chain concentrate these things in their tissues...
-- Rick
Posted 07 October 2005 - 11:56 PM
Posted 08 October 2005 - 07:42 PM
But wouldn't vegetarians be essentially the same as the farm animals? Basically, concentrating pesticides, chem fertilizers and so on in their tissues?... What about the pesticides, chem fertilizers and so on used to grow the hay, grain and etc that farm animals eat? It's a well known fact that animals high on the food chain concentrate these things in their tissues...
-- Rick
Posted 09 October 2005 - 01:02 AM
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Posted 09 October 2005 - 10:30 PM
You're probably right, but why not just pick out a choice in each category (like, say, filet mignon and rice) and we'll look up the caloric density? No need to guess about it or make claims to "some" veggies or "some" meat.Are you still trying to be amusing when you say 8lb of veggies is equivilent to 4oz of meat? Certainly not on the basis of calories. Some veggies have more calories per oz than meat does.
Posted 14 October 2005 - 05:09 PM
Edited by oilfieldpilot, 16 October 2005 - 05:13 PM.
Posted 14 October 2005 - 08:49 PM
Posted 14 October 2005 - 08:52 PM
Scottl
By chance are you also GreatOutdoors in another forum? If not please disregard! Your avatar is the same [glasses]
Anyway,
So how did this thread get so side-tracked
My question is for those who take racetams: WHAT difference do you feel/have from the varieties?
ASIDE:
Has Anyone Ever seen a VEGAN Centenarian?????
I guess we were born with sharp pointy teeth called canines, and not just bottom back teeth, for a r-e-a-s-o-n...
I much prefer chomping into a big red rare beefsteak over ruminating, anyday!!!
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Posted 15 October 2005 - 12:27 AM
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