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[Kalliste]

Has anyone tried this stuff? This sounds a bit too good to be true.

 

 

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[Dolph]

Search for the ingredients - realize it's useless junk - done...

[forever healthy]

which useless junk ingredients are you actually reffering to ?

 

from what i see the main active componten is EDTA, that is said to be effective against calcification.

 

unfortunately the company does not list the amount of EDTA that is in their capsules.

Edited by forever healthy, 18 January 2015 - 01:51 PM.

[Dolph]

from what i see the main active componten is EDTA, that is said to be effective against calcification.

 

 

Mmmmm, no... Certainly not.

[forever healthy]

could you quote some research on that ?

[niner]

 

from what i see the main active componten is EDTA, that is said to be effective against calcification.

 

 

Mmmmm, no... Certainly not.

 

Take a look at this.

[forever healthy]

i am considering starting on either NanobacTX, a similar product or IV chelation (or a combination) to reduce my calcium deposits

 

found

 

http://www.life-enha...-heart-function

 

and

 

http://www.smart-pub...-heart-arteries

 

found this product:

 

http://www.supersmar...io-Clear™--0392

 

nanobacTX seems quite expensive compared to this one. and their website does not really explain whats different or better about their product.

 

 

 

Edited by forever healthy, 18 January 2015 - 04:28 PM.

[zen]

i am considering starting on either NanobacTX, a similar product or IV chelation (or a combination) to reduce my calcium deposits

 

found

 

http://www.life-enha...-heart-function

 

and

 

http://www.smart-pub...-heart-arteries

 

found this product:

 

http://www.supersmar...io-Clear™--0392

 

nanobacTX seems quite expensive compared to this one. and their website does not really explain whats different or better about their product.

 

According to the information on the Ray&Terry's website, NanobacTX uses enteric coated capsules which dissolve in the small bowel which I believe helps absorption. I am not sure what kind of capsules are used by the SuperSmart in their Cardio-Clear product.
 

Edited by zen, 18 January 2015 - 05:06 PM.

[Dolph]

 

 

from what i see the main active componten is EDTA, that is said to be effective against calcification.

 

 

Mmmmm, no... Certainly not.

 

Take a look at this.

 

 

Hilarious! 

http://www.mayoclini...study-presented

[forever healthy]

unfortunately the study does not analyze wether calcium deposits were removed or not. that the mortality rates were not that much different might e.g due to people just keeping their bad habits regardings nutrition, exercise and stress control, so the calcification would not make such a bug difference.

[Darryl]

the company does not list the amount of EDTA that is in their capsules.

 

Some, but the major source was 1500 mg EDTA by rectal suppository.

[forever healthy]

hmm, that makes the statements on their website somehow inconsistent. i looks like there is no study on NanoBacTX alone. and the the site itself does not talk about the rectal suppository and the antibiotic they were using in the trial:

 

ComET is a proprietary prescription compound formu- lated to treat atherosclerotic plaque forming processes po- tentially related to nanobacterial infection. ComET is com- posed of:

 

(1) Nutraceutical Powder (Vitamin C, Vitamin B6, Niacin, Folic Acid, Selenium, EDTA, l-Arginine, l-Lysine, l-Ornithine, Bromelain, Trypsin, CoQ10, Grapeseed Ex- tract, Hawthorn Berry, Papain) 5cm3 taken orally every evening;

 

(2) tetracycline HCl 500mg taken orally every evening;

 

(3) ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid disodium salt (EDTA-sequestrant) 1500mg taken in a rectal suppository base every evening.

 

Study patients were instructed to com- ply with the following nightly dosing schedule: (1) mix the nanobiotic powder into water or apple juice and consume orally; (2) take the tetracycline HCl 500 mg capsule orally; (3) insert 1 suppository rectally and (4) lie down flat and go to sleep.

 

[forever healthy]

found this article:

 

http://www.heartfixe...- NanobacTX.htm

[Lonjaimity]

Necroposting, but the nanobacTX people may lose my confidence when they simply remove the antibiotics and keep selling the product.  The EDTA is now in the capsule, which makes me even less confident.  AFAIK disodium EDTA is poorly absorbed orally, but there's confusion all over the place RE: disodium EDTA v. calcium EDTA. 

 

Does anyone know whether disodium EDTA is actually even absorbed rectally?  SubQ sounds more plausible than rectal, though the TACT study was done via IV.  It's very easy to find supplements purporting it makes sense in a capsule, but it's silly.  It doesn't get absorbed.

 

The idea of SubQ administration is getting a bump with the beta-cyclodextrin that cleared cholesterol from plaque being administered SubQ.  What about disodium EDTA?  Traditionally it's been something like 3g over 5 hours via IV.  I'm not sure rectal sounds any more pleasant anyway.

 

A combination of beta-cyclodextrin and disodium EDTA could sound interesting, and both are at least orally GRAS.  Neither therapy would be patentable, so nobody will care until someone does something to make it patentable.

Edited by Lonjaimity, 17 April 2016 - 02:00 AM.

[forever healthy]

orally seems to be the worst way to deliver it, since it has to pass the liver. rectally means that i can directly enter the blood stream, since the last part of the gut has a direct connection to the bloodstream and is not passed thru the liver. i  also think that taking just edta orally compared to rectally in combination with the antibiotic is quite a difference and that the study hardly applies for just the oral edta.

 

for my therapy i have switched to IV delivery of the EDTA. (3g over 3 hours) once a month.

[Logjam]

Does anyone actually have any studies on oral v. rectal v. IV v. subcutaneous absorption?  I'm not sure if anyone's done any studies on subcutaneous, but EDTA's used in all sorts of injectables, including subq.

 

Also, the only rectal EDTA that can be found via Google is calcium EDTA, which is definitely not the same thing.

Edited by Logjam, 17 April 2016 - 06:24 PM.

[evilbaga]

$199 for that?

WAY overpriced.