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[wraith]

So I'm sick of paying through the nose for wrinkle creams and I want to make my own. If I come up with something good, then maybe I can manufacture it and sell it to others.

How should I go about doing this?

Does anyone know of any good reference materials on the topic?

If a product label says 'green tea extract', how do you know what extraction method was used (aqueous, alcoholic, something else)? Does that mean it is the whole extract or might it have been fractionated (meaning they are really using a specific substance and you don't know what it is, except that it is a component of green tea extract).

[REGIMEN]

Hi wraith,
Here's a site, among others I'm sure, that sells the bulk ingredients for DIY vendors such as you express hope of being.

http://www.camdengrey.com/

I came across it 6 months ago when searching for something else so that's all the help I can offer in this department. Hope it's helpful.

[wraith]

Thanks - its a start.

Now I know about CO2 & SCO2 extraction.

[treonsverdery]

I'd think about transdermal BHT or TBHQ with a commercial sunscreen base. BHT is available from lorann oils. If you'd like to try plant products there are big food preparation n manufacturing firms that have natural product blends as effective as antio>

Edited by treonsverdery, 02 November 2006 - 05:36 AM.

[Pablo M]

I have just purchased some idebenone and alpha lipoic acid powder. They mix extremely well with a commercial moisturizing lotion (I use Avalon Organics' Coenzyme Q10 lotion). Ascorbyl palmitate does not mix well at all; it tends to clump and slough off the skin soon after application. DMAE is somewhere in between. I also add matcha (powdered Japanese green tea) to liquid body soap (Nutribiotic brand). Given its melanoma-preventative properties it seems like a good idea.

Dr. Perricone's products are 1% lipoic acid (by weight or volume I do not know), but even he admits that 3% is probably necessary. At home, you could make a 5 or 10% product, and add antioxidants to everything in your daily life. Idebenone shampoo? Lipoic acid mouthwash? Why the heck not?

[wraith]

Thanks!

The only think I've tried so far is grinding down Ester-C (that's ascorbyl palmitate?) tablets and mixing with water. I filtered the mix and it seemed to apply okay on the skin. After sitting for a few says some crystals formed, however. They used to sell liquid Ester-C (Natrol?) but it seems to have been discontinued.

I'd like to do something with vitamin K; I wonder if it would be better absorbed if I mix it with an oil?

My favorite product is Jason's Ultra-C Eye Lift. I'd like to have it in large enough quantities to put it on all over (I use it on my entire face right now).

[wraith]

I ground down some vitamin K and mixed it with some olive oil. It mixed in okay but I didn't filter it (figured it would take too long) so it had a bit of a gritty texture.

I tried mixing it with water and was completely unsuccessful. The fine powder made a sort of skin on the water's surface. Interesting, but not useful.

[Pablo M]

Ester-C is not a true vitamin C ester (true esterified C is ascorbyl palmitate). Ester-C is not fat soluble. Source Naturals, LEF and Beyond a Century have ascorbyl palmitate.

[treonsverdery]

I've heard the DMSO is effective at transporting chemicals through the dermis. perhaps the reason it isn't yet a cosmetic things is that the FDA has not approved it as a medicinal transport mechanism. I'd put DMSO plus active materials, then apply to moist dermis.

water soluble Vitamin C rapidly turns to a non nutrient. lipid soluble plus DMSO might be better.

lorann oils has a natural BHT equivalent at lorannoils.com Cheap BHT with lipid soluble ascorbyl palmitate at shop.store.yahoo.com/iherb/bhtplus.html shop.store.yahoo.com/iherb/bhtplus.html

Edited by treonsverdery, 02 November 2006 - 05:37 AM.

[treonsverdery]

Oral vitamin E like 7 to 10 pills each 24 hours will make your skin better looking after less than a month. Highly effective

Immediately effective, possibly dubious is cortisone ointment or the alcohol fluid version of cortisone ointment.

there are fashion magazine ads about phytoestrogens being effective at various things. research then think about dmso with phtoestrogens or even ground up Pill.

Edited by treonsverdery, 02 November 2006 - 05:37 AM.

[tracer]

DMSO will wreck the stratum corneum. Try a pleuronic lecithin organogel as a transdermal transporter instead. www.phlojel.com