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Electrons missbehaving


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#1 Russ Maughan

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Posted 03 April 2015 - 01:46 AM

Suppose you are an electron travelling near the speed of light. Another electron swings by and it's pull, or push sends you slightly past the speed of light. You jump back in time a itty bit reapearing somewhere you are not supposed to be. BECAUSE the earth has moved, the sun has moved, the galexy has moved at a total of 10 to the tenth MPH. To sum up, electrons behave exactly as they were predicted to move, in steady orbits, just temporally offset by other electrons.


Is this already established?

#2 Deep Thought

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Posted 04 April 2015 - 11:28 AM

Time dilation and length contraction will have that electron not exceeding the speed of light. The push from the Coulomb force is not added to the speed of the other electron through a Galilean transformation, but by a Lorentz transformation. Which is the relativistic equation of velocity addition :)


At low speeds the Lorentz transformation reduces to a Galilean transformation because the gammafactor is so small. At relativistic speeds, defined as above 1 Bohr speed, you will have to use Lorentz transformation and the relativistic equation for velocity addition

Edited by Deep Thought, 04 April 2015 - 11:30 AM.

#3 Russ Maughan

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Posted 05 April 2015 - 12:22 AM

mmm I have to dissagree but I can't explain why just yet :)

I'm not a mystic but I know we're missing something.

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 05:37 PM

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#5 Kinesis

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 04:53 AM

Electrons don’t really “orbit” to begin with. The classical picture of tiny objects moving in trajectories doesn’t reflect quantum physical reality.

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