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Renaming "beating aging" to soft immortality

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#1 Florian Xavier

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Posted 03 November 2015 - 06:39 PM


Maybe the pro aging trance exist because of the fear of the 'for ever'.

 

Soft imortality maning you can kill yourself may fix the problem !


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Posted 03 November 2015 - 07:57 PM

You may try agelessness

 



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#3 Florian Xavier

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Posted 03 November 2015 - 08:08 PM

when i tried "soft immortality", people asked me how to send money to sens.



#4 Florian Xavier

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Posted 03 November 2015 - 08:35 PM

or pseudo immortality



#5 niner

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Posted 03 November 2015 - 10:16 PM

Why do you need to use the word "immortality" at all?



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Posted 03 November 2015 - 10:30 PM

If you are an advocate for healthy life extension, or slowing aging, or agelessness, or unlimited lifespans, or curing age-related disease, or you name it, you will eventually be asked about immortality. Be prepared to answer.



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Posted 03 November 2015 - 11:15 PM

My intuition is that it's better (currently) to focus on increased life quality rather than life quantity when discussing, promoting and describing these issues. While I have no doubt that a huge number of people would strongly desire a longer lifespan, psychologically I think there is less likely to be a negative psychological reaction to proposals for better quality of life.

 

"Rejuvenation" is one particularly good word, I think. The cosmetic industry might be a useful source from which to carefully borrow terminology for use in communicating with the general public on these topics. It's probably the largest, most influential, incumbent and mainstream element in current culture specifically dealing with anti-aging (or at least claims of anti-aging.) They have decades of mass marketing strategies and experience behind them. However there is widespread skepticism about cosmetic companies' claims too, and they do use a lot of terminology that would not be desirable to copy, so I would also suggest caution.


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Posted 04 November 2015 - 03:16 AM

If you are an advocate for healthy life extension, or slowing aging, or agelessness, or unlimited lifespans, or curing age-related disease, or you name it, you will eventually be asked about immortality. Be prepared to answer.

 

I don't get this.  Healthy life extension, slowing aging, and curing age-related disease don't have any suggestion of living "forever", just living longer.  Agelessness is a pretty accurate term for what we'd like to see, which is a decoupling of biological and chronological age.  It shouldn't imply that one can never die, only that you wouldn't have to be killed by aging.  "Unlimited lifespan" is a bit more vague, inviting both the Tithonus error and perhaps suggesting that one could not be killed.  At any rate, the answer is simple--  We simply tell them that of course we could still die, because we're still "mortal".  We just don't die from aging, but rather from accidents or unusual illnesses.  We could then move on to the inevitable next questions about the world filling up with people, dictators living forever, and rich people getting to live longer than poor people.  I think we need to have good answers ready for all the usual boogymen that everyone brings up.  I don't see any benefit to inviting misunderstanding by using a word like 'immortality' which has a pre-existing definition in the minds of most people.


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#9 Mind

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Posted 04 November 2015 - 06:54 PM

Well then, you do get my point. And you have a canned answer.

 

 

 

At any rate, the answer is simple--  We simply tell them that of course we could still die, because we're still "mortal".

 






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