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Are "low iron, tired adrenals and reverseT3" actually scapegoats when T3/NDT peddlers asked why it ain't working?

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#1 youngandold

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Posted 25 January 2016 - 12:24 AM


When T3 or Natural dessicated thyroid peddlers get asked why products from that "wonderful" mail source ain't working they use "low ferritin even if Iron labs are OK", "adrenal fatigue", or "high reverse T3" as scapegoats?
Are they apologetic of low quality, underdosed products?

They tout T4 and reverseT3 as evil when studies have shown T4 to be badly
needed by the brain and actually proven thyroid resistant people have naturally high T3 AND ALSO high T4

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Posted 19 February 2016 - 09:20 AM

That's what happens when you have the scientific community dogmatically pushing T4-only on everyone even when people still feel bad...

 

You get a 'sect' which dogmatically pushes the complete opposite...

 

Truth is usually somewhere in the middle. I found that for NDT (and T3 in general) to work, it has to be micro-dosed very frequently throughout the day (every 1.5 hours or so), to mimic the thyroid's natural production as closely as possible. Difference being, the hormones in NDT are bound to thyroglobulin meaning they are much more easily deactivated should they be taken in excess (simply by not being freed from the transport protein, if we go by the theory that only FT3 and FT4 are biologically active), whereas synthetic T4 and T3 as found in Cynoplus are already in the free form, and as such, act immediately and will generally cause a negative reaction when taken in excess.

 

I have taken up to 4 grains of NDT in halfs and whole tablets and have found that taking just TWO grains, but in 1/4ths spread out through the day, works much better. Taking half a pill or a whole pill at once is just wasting excess T3, and therefore money.

 

There is also the idea that natural hormones are superior to synthetic even when the synthetic includes T3, I believe that synthetic hormones can be more effective for people in certain cases simply by being harder to neutralize, and they have been much more effective in raising my temps and pulse which NDT, despite it making me feel good, does not do.

 

NDT also contains (technically) T2, T1 & Calcitonin, so there is that.

 

What I am really looking forward to is stem cell thyroid replacement... having to pop pills multiple times daily for the rest of your life sucks. I hope to get a new thyroid within 15-20 years.


Edited by 6ort, 19 February 2016 - 09:23 AM.


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#3 rwac

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Posted 19 February 2016 - 11:15 AM

I found that for NDT (and T3 in general) to work, it has to be micro-dosed very frequently throughout the day (every 1.5 hours or so), to mimic the thyroid's natural production as closely as possible.

This is the best way to dose thyroid.

 

T3 is essentially an accelerator, and may not do anything if your nutrition isnt up to the mark. rT3 is a way for your body to oppose excess T3.

 

Beware of iron, excess iron can be toxic even though it appears to solve certain issues.







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