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[canz]

I am currently taking 300mg ed of Bacopa monniera and have been for about a week. I have noticed a little mood enhancement. I was wondering if Rhodiola Rosea would be more beneficial for mood, because I have read it also helps with elevating testosterone to a certain effect. Could you all give me your experiences with both and doses you've used, and which you thought was more effective as far as stress relief, mood enhancer, those are the main things I am looking for.

[rfarris]

I don't know very much about it, but what I read was that bacopa was for brain support whereas rhodiola was an adaptogen. Have you read otherwise?

[ajnast4r]

i noticed nothing from bacopa (aor 50%)...

i noticed sharp increase in positive mood from rhodiola(also aor) when quitting caffeine


i like rhodiola alot, one of the very few things i feel a difference from

[canz]

I don't know very much about it, but what I read was that bacopa was for brain support whereas rhodiola was an adaptogen. Have you read otherwise?

Thats what I've read also, but to my understanding, bacopa helped some with stress and uplifting mood.

ajnast4r, what kind of dosage are you taking for Rhodiola Rosea? So I suppose I could continue to take bacopa for the anti oxidant cognitive function and add the RR for the adaptogen effects.

[ajnast4r]

i was taking 1 cap, 150mg(3%/1%)... anything more and the effects completely dissapeared... oddly enough

[nihilist]

i thought bacopa was used for an increase in visual processing speed? took about 3 months to start showing effect?

[jackinbox]

Rhodiola kills all my stress but kills also my hability to speak.

[mitkat]

I like bacopa, I've been taking between 500-1000mg for three months or so and I feel...something good in my brain. Things move a little bit quicker. I use Siberian Ginseng as my adaptogen, and I presume it's working.

[nihilist]

the effects continue to improve [with bacopa] for about 15 months on average.

edit: i would suggest 500mg as a general dose for men. even bigger guys like myself will reap benefits at that dose.women, between say 100-140 can get away with 350 or so.

[drmz]

I stack both Rhodiola and Bacopa. Gives me a better mood and makes me more sociable ( more blalbalblablabla ) . Now i need some add on's to convert the blablablabla into valuable information

[purerealm]

what concentration rosavin do you use to recommend those dosages

[busdrivinbilly]

I haven't felt anything subjective from Bacopa (300mg), but I do notice a difference using Rhodiola (300mg, 3.6%, 1%).

I notice specifically, because of my insomniac habits, that Rhodiola helps me to function on less than optimum sleep without totally crashing at work.

[Jacovis]

I am using Bacopa (equivalent to 55 mg of the active ingredient, Bacoside A & Bacoside B) twice per day (with Breakfast and Lunch). It is definitely giveing me more brain power and seems to be one of the few suppliments that makes me feel 'smarter' rather than just being a stimulant which helps with memory (like Gingko, Vinpocetine, Thiamine, Centrophenoxine, etc.). Another positive I feel with Bacopa is a slight reduction in stress. It does seem to make me a bit angry though I feel sometimes. Oh and taking too much Bacopa at once (as in 110 mg of the active ingredients) can make me very sleepy.

I tried the Swedish Herbal Institute brand of Rhodiola Rosea more than 2 years ago but felt very little and proably wont try it again. From what I've read, Rhodiola's effects, while great at first for many people, seem to fade quickly. Bacopa, on the other hand, has had studies done on humans which showed it was still working well after 12 weeks of supplementation.

Still, both herbs, seem to provide a multitude of health benefits with a great safety profile, so I would think if you cycle them, it would be a little-risk, likely-benefit scenario. That is not stressed enough here, I would much rather be taking something which would give me moderate health benefits long-term and has a great safety profile than something slightly more powerful possibly but with a questionable safety profile (ie. Amphetamines fall into the latter category and to a smaller extent drugs like Idebenone and Nicergoline and also a lot of the newer supplements talked about on the Avantlabs forum where the ingredients are largely unknown).


- Vis

[purerealm]

bacopa is supposed to work better the longer you take it. I think bacopa works by retaining your memory better after learning something new.

[dayfly]

I tried the Swedish Herbal Institute brand of Rhodiola Rosea more than 2 years ago but felt very little and proably wont try it again. From what I've read, Rhodiola's effects, while great at first for many people, seem to fade quickly. Bacopa, on the other hand, has had studies done on humans which showed it was still working well after 12 weeks of supplementation.

I can't imagine that the effects of Rhodiola fade quickly. How is that possible, what are the reasons for the fading effect? I mean an adaptogen is suggested for long time use and it's no drug but a herb. Simply can't imagine that the body builds up some resistance against Rhodiola...