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what about beta glucan and apple polyphenols?


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#1 bocor

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Posted 27 November 2005 - 10:35 PM


when you go to applepoly.com they present much research and evidence ho apple polyphenols uppregulate ALL antioxidant enzymes and increase life span of lab animals etc..do you all think this would be a good addition? also, beta glucan for immune regulation am i right in thinking i should incorporate this for its ability to increase macrophages and killer cells?? much thanks here
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Posted 28 November 2005 - 10:36 PM

Um, the applepoly is just some expensive polyphenol product. You can get pretty much the same much less expensive elsewhere. Grapeseed etc.

As for beta glucan: it seems to be true still it's fairly expensive. The thing is as far as i understand ( and i am not into thi stuff much realy) that there are some eight essential glyconutrients the body gets two of em abundantly from our regular diet :-) the others not so. One thing semi famous for it's immune stimulating effect is echinacea and there again it is the rather high amount of one of these essential glyconutrients that the immune system needs for various purposes. Glyconutrients provide substrates for the body to use in building the glyco portion of glycoconjugates on cell surfaces. Or so i understand. Like galactose for mylin production etc

These Gylconutrients are
- Glucose
- Galactose
- Mannose
- Fucose
- Xylose
- N-Acetylglucosamine
- N-Acteylgalactosamine
- N-Acetylneuraminic Acid (sialic acid).

The eight essential glyconutrients can be provided by just four common food supplements, kelp, aloe vera, shark cartilage, and whey (milk) or egg protein.

Not shure i like these things though.

I hope somone more knowledgable will point out my errors and provide you with more accurate information then this very brief error prone rambling i quickly whipped up for you.

Some will dislike the term glyconutrients as it seems to be the latest rage with pushers and the general anti-aging marketplace(tm reason)

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#3 nihilist

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Posted 18 December 2005 - 11:48 PM

i thought echinacea was found to be bunk as far as immune system enhancing.

perhaps i was wrong.

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#4 curious_sle

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Posted 22 December 2005 - 11:13 PM

Um, echinacea you say?

Phytother Res. 2005 Aug;19(8):689-94.

A proprietary extract from the echinacea plant (Echinacea purpurea)
enhances systemic immune response during a common cold.

Goel V, Lovlin R, Chang C, Slama JV, Barton R, Gahler R, Bauer R,
Goonewardene L, Basu TK.

Department of Agricultural, Food and Nutritional Science, University of
Alberta, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.

In a previous paper, it was reported that Echinilin (Factors R & D
Technologies, Burnaby, British Columbia, Canada) a formulation prepared
from freshly harvested Echinacea purpurea plants and standardized on
the basis of three known active components (alkamides, cichoric acid
and polysaccharides) is effective for the treatment of a naturally
acquired common cold. However, the mechanism by which this effect is
achieved remains unknown. In the present study, Echinilin or placebo
were administered to volunteers at the onset of their cold for a period
of 7 days, with eight doses (5 mL/dose) on day 1 and three doses on
subsequent days. Fasting blood samples were obtained before and during
their colds. The decrease in total daily symptomatic score was more
evident in the echinacea group than in the placebo group. These effects
of echinacea were associated with a significant and sustained increase
in the number of circulating total white blood cells, monocytes,
neutrophils and NK cells. In the later part of the cold, the echinacea
treatment suppressed the cold-related increase in superoxide production
by the neutrophils. These results suggest that Echinilin, by enhancing
the non-specific immune response and eliciting free radical scavenging
properties, may have led to a faster resolution of the cold symptoms.
Copyright © 2005 John Wiley & Sons, Ltd.

Publication Types:
Controlled Clinical Trial

PMID: 16177972 [PubMed - in process]
http://www.ncbi.nlm....l=pubmed_DocSum




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