I think everyone knows by now that Ritalin was originally created as an antidepressant; but, due to abuse potential it was schedule and then designated as an ADHD med.
I have anhedonic depression paired with a very strong ADD-PI, which often leaves me self perpetuating ruminative thought loop as to why I can't be like other people and simply get things done in my life. I have tried IR Ritalin in the past and it has too much of an effect on norepinephrine and I just become dysphoric and somewhat paranoid. However 4F-MPH is literally a game changer. It's the most effective antidepressant I have tried and isn't compulsive due to it's slow but almost euphoric peak and gradual comedown. This is one research chemical I want to keep for the rest of my life, that's how effective it is for me. The DAT activity overpowers any NA reuptake and puts you in a very "zen" mindset. My default mode network turns from self pity and melancholy to a much more active and attentive one (prefrontal strengthening/activating). It also calms me down paradoxically as do most amphetamines do for children with ADHD. I've been taking it for the past two weeks at 10 mg once a day and haven't developed any significant tolerance (I take it along Zinc to boost effectiveness). I also don't wake up "needing" the compound to function nor craving it; but, since it has great utility for me, I'd rather take it and be awake and attentive rather than depressed, self critical, and ruminating about introspective personal shortcomings. It allows me to take action and plan ahead as to what to do and how to do it instead of ruminate over stupid shit.
As far as neurotoxicity, I don't think there is much of concern in that regards. I always take stuff like ALCAR, Bacopa, and other neuroprotective compound that would negate any such potential effects and will soon add Selegiline in minute doses for enhancing when I need to study most. God forbid anything beyond 1.25 mg otherwise that's psychosis guaranteed.
I also find the compound has nootropic effects besides its slow onset of action, gradual peak, and slow and steady elimination half life. It's like Concerta; but, 3x more effective and MUCH cheaper.
I'm wondering if any other members have had experience with this compound and have the discipline to participate in a group buy for it.
I'd be interested in a largish group buy for it.
If interest, disciplined, and responsible just post here about the amount you would be interested in.
For eg. a group buy for 100g with 10 participants getting 10g each would cost each participant 66 Euro, which is peanuts from rechemco. But, the store that sells it for that price doesn't ship to the US, so someone in the EU or elsewhere who has had a proven history here would have to redistribute to potential participants in the US.
Otherwise, there is another store, with stellar reputation and from which I bought my existing batch that offers 100g for €1,100.00, meaning each participant would have to pay 110 Euro. The only snag is, that they don't ship to the US orders that exceed 50g, so we would have to somehow split the orders within a week or two apart. EDIT: Potentially, we could have 5 participants for 10g from the US and another 5 from the EU, and request the order be split in two, and then redistribute from the respective locations...
Anyway, just putting this out there for people who have ruminative/anhedonic/self critical depression, ADHD, ADD-PI, or just want to function at a higher level.
Best regards.
If we could get a group buy done for this compound, I'd be also interested in possibly synergizing this compound with something like guanfacine, which can be more easily obtained from China (Alibaba).
Edited by redan, 20 April 2016 - 10:17 PM.
