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#1 spiritus

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Posted 05 December 2005 - 07:22 AM


Currently 19. Oriented towards an electrian because of 'non amazing' highschool grades. This will not make me happy, I want to be involved in genomics.

My weak previous ideas were that I could not tackle university and that I was hopeless for a math\chemistry\bio oriented course which is a huge, huge interest of mine.

I chose to follow up on a electrian path because I could expand it to security systems or become a contracter for money and somehow just follow \ support geonomics on the sideline.

After discussing some genomics with a member of an online forum I have become so intrigued I may just do something completely radical. I may redo some courses in highschool through a GED to achieve university grade. I am near that, and capable if I optomize myself.

My math skills are weak.

My chemistry skills can be well.

My biology skills are great.

My computer skills are amazing.

Now people on this forum would have some idea of 'what it takes' and 'can I make it?'

Until now I had no idea of what my calling in life was. Now I feel that if I don't act now, I may not enjoy life to the potential I might have. I won't let this drag me down, but damn... it's all I talk about. That and nanotechnology, and higher spirituality and the fruits of knowlage.

I would feel weak if I did not at least consider this or perhaps a lesser yet related field.

Honestly, what advice can you give me?

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Posted 05 December 2005 - 02:14 PM

Success in academia, particularly if you want to progress further than a basic bachelor of science degree requires a commitment to obtaining a high grade standard. It all pays off in the end since you attain knowledge and skills that you can later apply in your field of research. If your math skills are weak you must make them - like you say your computer skills are - amazing. Math is actually much easier than you may realize. You just need to apply yourself to ensuring that you have learned the basics so that you can handle more complex material with confidence. The same goes for chemistry and physics. Of course make sure you undertake the preparation. Get a GED study book and study until you can perform every single question with confidence. Then get another one. Remember, that once you are at uni its not going to get easier but it will become more focused. You will be hammered with exams until you graduate. To ensure you can enter postgraduate study you will have to perform very well in these exams and other assessment tasks. It may sound daunting but it can be quite enjoyable if you can be passionate about learning and you can see the big picture.

Absolutely anyone can do well in university provided they are willing to invest the time in study. If you are prepared for it and willing to commit the time necessary to study you will do well.

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#3 spiritus

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Posted 05 December 2005 - 03:57 PM

I am so afraid of going and messing it all up. I know I have the ability to meet the goals I would like to obtain. But partying instead of studying is a big risk factor for me. I'm gonna have to learn to say no.

I agree with the math thing - I just never took the time to care. Now that I am taking supplements I feel like I could really tear down at it now. It's like building a jega tower, I have the bottom peices in secure places. As for the rest of the tower, it's yet to be built.

And what you said is absoloutely true. My uncle who is a teacher said 'do your homework every night and you will always have a good grade'. If only I heeded his advice.

#4 John Schloendorn

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Posted 05 December 2005 - 06:08 PM

You can still give up after you failed. There is nothing to lose, so go ahead and try ;-) If you can dream it, then you can do it. Don't let them talk you out of this.

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Posted 05 December 2005 - 08:54 PM

you're 19, there is more than plenty of time to make up for whatever past shortcomings you had.

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Posted 09 December 2005 - 02:37 PM

Go instead for a new virgin ground: Proteomics. :)
Stick to this forum and take part of all the fascinating information in our area. This makes that you also learn molecular biology in your spare time. Which has helped me a lot to know what chices to make. Then you will soon be able impress people by your "immense" knowledge in areas such as telomers, mutations, mitos, stemcells, etc. [lol]
Download interessting .pdf's store them in a huge library and read them instead of waching TV, thats how I do. To start your collection go to http://www.pubmed.org

Edited by wolfram, 09 December 2005 - 07:19 PM.


#7 kevin

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Posted 09 December 2005 - 02:50 PM

all good advice...

Don't worry about the work... just do it... talk about it.. make friends who share your enthusiasm, and you will be well on your way. There are ways to lessen the chances of you sabotaging yourself. To NOT try would be the real failure and frankly, the returns on your personal satisfaction will be immense and who knows what and who you will influence with your passion.

GO FOR IT!

#8 JonesGuy

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Posted 09 December 2005 - 03:46 PM

Hmmmn, I was full of practical advice, but then I see Kevin's 100% right. If you make contacts in the area, and hang out with people who like it, you're sure to succeed. I've seen the biggest bone-heads thrive in a topic, only because they really liked the topic.

However, my advice about schooling that you don't know you can afford, is to never be in debt.

Save up for your first semester. If you thrive in your first semester, THEN take out a student loan. After your first year, work off that loan while studying the topics you'll take the next year. After the loan is paid off, take out another loan for another year.

If you're not certain about the payout, then really minimize your risk. The number of times I've seen people fail out of University after two years and $30,000 debt makes me realise that some people should be cautious. You have to decide if you're one of those people.

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Posted 13 February 2006 - 02:13 AM

I went to a selective high school and wanted to get into molecular biology since I was 15. So I was fotunate enough to be in the right place from the start, and then just follow the obvious path. But even so, making it into a selctive high school (being smart for your age at 12) means nothing when it comes to commitement and dedication and rote memorization etc.

I was lucky to be in a good school, because with that, I coulda ctually focus at least a bit on studying enough so that I got good enough grades to get into Uni. I didnt get into the advanced course, I didnt even get high enough scores to get into 'biotechnology'. But I got enough for 'Science' (and for fun I chose to do a double degree in science and arts) and from there, I chose chose all of my subjects accordingly to make my specialistaion the Molecular Biology major.

From that point on...all I had to do was maintain pass average, or credit average to get into honours. If you want to do research, you need honours.(maybe USA has a different system, but honours for us is 1 year of research in a lab with a supervisor, and then a 70 page thesis on your research at the end of that year) From my experience, its hard enough to get any work in molecular biology with honours, let alone without honours. So you need to set your sights on getting at least that little step further than jsut the degree.

Now what i have learnt from this experience, is that contacts are important. In my case, the only reason I got into honours was because I got to know my supervisor somewhat ahead of time, and gave him the impression that i was a dedicated good stiudent with a keen interest in this topic. My marks sux (i regularly only got passes and actually had one pass conceded (46%), but he beleives that drive is more important in science than just marks. Lucky me.

Secondly, like wolfram said, START READING PAPERS. OMG. If only i learnt this sooner. In honours, I was forced to read hundreds of papers for my topic.... and god damn it felt good. For the first time ever, i UNDERSTOOD something. Not because I read a paper, or 10 papers, but because i read 20 or 30 on the one topic. After you read a few papers that are all talking about the same thing, you keep seeing the same terms, the same references, and some of the papers explain them better than others etc, and eventually you put the topic together in your head, and you can go back to the very first paper you read, which in the begining meant nothing and confused the hell out of you, and the second time around, every line in that paper is icnredibly meaningful.

If you start reading papers in your undergrad studies (find papers relevent to what you are studying at the time) then your exams will be easy, because you will understand the principles behind the questions. If need be, read next to your computer and have google open next to you while you read. Search for terms which you dont understand. I also find http://www.onelook.com to be handy for definitions. http://scholar.google.com is awesome. Particularly if you dont have access to papers, sometimes google finds them for you in places where you can access them.

Thirdly, USE imminst. I found imminst back when it was bjklein.com because at that time I was addicted to physicsforums.com. Finding physicsforum.com was one of the best things i did for my studies, because in my spare time i would learn stuff through forums. I would play in the biology and philosophy forums there, and I learnt so much abou evolution and a range of philosophies etc. And i did that INSTEAD of playing computer games etc which i would have otherwise been doing. If you get distracted as easily as I do, then get yourself distracted by things that help you learn what you want to learn. Imminst is the best place to learn things about ageing related biology.

Fourthly, a side note, I also found in my arts degree, that biology research itself is not the only way that you can partake in the continuation of understanding the problem of ageing. Philosophy, and studying the science of biology from the school of History and philosophy of science can be just as important. From those schools you can just as easily read scientific papers all day and theorize on what research is being done, what it means, what needs to be done etc. Although, if you wanted to do that, it would certainly help to have the scientific training as well, so that the papers are actually easier to read. Just a thought.

Sorry for saying so much, hope some of it helps.

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#10 th3hegem0n

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Posted 13 February 2006 - 07:29 PM

If you get distracted as easily as I do, then get yourself distracted by things that help you learn what you want to learn


That's some quality advice, really.

Hehe.




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