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[Jiminy Glick]

I am moving and left my supplements in my hot car for a little while, not too long, under an hour I would say, I had my windows cracked, it was still pretty hot in there though. I noticed my Lithium Orotate pills smell awful. The rest of my stuff is powders like Glycinate in plastic bottles and Picamilon in these plastic packages. 

 

Are these supplements safe to use outside of the Lithium?

 

If you think about it supplements delivered in the summer probably get pretty hot in the mail trucks.

Edited by Jiminy Glick, 09 July 2017 - 02:02 AM.

[maxwatt]

In general the rate of a chemical reaction doubles for every 10 degrees Celsius.  Most supplements are rated for a 2 year shelf life at 20 degrees Celsius (68 Fahrenheit) , though in practice it is usually longer, as much as 10 years from time of manufacturer.  In theory you can calculate from the temperature in the car and time left in the car, how much the life expectancy of the supplements degraded.  Most likely not enough to affect most supplements. But some substances have a threshold temperature at which they decompose, as must have happened with your lithium.  I would think that you can probably tell by comparing the smell of a fresh supplement sample to your overheated specimen to determine if it's not right.  The nose is a pretty sensitive instrument.

 

[Jiminy Glick]

In general the rate of a chemical reaction doubles for every 10 degrees Celsius.  Most supplements are rated for a 2 year shelf life at 20 degrees Celsius (68 Fahrenheit) , though in practice it is usually longer, as much as 10 years from time of manufacturer.  In theory you can calculate from the temperature in the car and time left in the car, how much the life expectancy of the supplements degraded.  Most likely not enough to affect most supplements. But some substances have a threshold temperature at which they decompose, as must have happened with your lithium.  I would think that you can probably tell by comparing the smell of a fresh supplement sample to your overheated specimen to determine if it's not right.  The nose is a pretty sensitive instrument.

 

Interesting, what slightly worries me is the supplements in plastic bags though I suppose the plastic particles wouldn't melt slightly and go into the powder. That is all I care about.

[PeaceAndProsperity]

Interesting, what slightly worries me is the supplements in plastic bags though I suppose the plastic particles wouldn't melt slightly and go into the powder. That is all I care about.

 

No matter the temperature you obviously will get plastic particles on you or in you when you have a plastic container. Friction creates plastic particles.
 

[Jiminy Glick]

 

Interesting, what slightly worries me is the supplements in plastic bags though I suppose the plastic particles wouldn't melt slightly and go into the powder. That is all I care about.

 

No matter the temperature you obviously will get plastic particles on you or in you when you have a plastic container. Friction creates plastic particles.
 

 

 

I don't know how I feel about this statement but I don't know enough about the science to dispute it. 

My mineral pills (Lithium and Magnesium) went bad for they smell bad. Everything else in my state of ignorance seems fine.

[PeaceAndProsperity]

I don't know how I feel about this statement but I don't know enough about the science to dispute it. 

My mineral pills (Lithium and Magnesium) went bad for they smell bad. Everything else in my state of ignorance seems fine.

Also think about acidity. A plastic bottle with anything acidic inside like coca cola which surely cause the plastic to leach. So far I've not had obvious health problems from consuming coca cola beverages from plastic bottles.

 

OH and by the way, how can you smell something? You can smell something by having tiny bits of the thing you're smelling circulating in the air and entering your nose. So if you can smell plastic it means it's ever so slightly in the air, either a close byproduct of plastic or an actual part of the plastic.

[adamh]

That is true about plastic leaching chemicals into the liquid you drink. I avoid coke, carbonated soft drinks and anything in plastic. Look for glass if you can find it.

[Jiminy Glick]

It is true about plastic and liquid. I am not certain off a plastic bag and powder to the same extent, it also seems like a type of foil on the inside (I don't know if anyone has bought from Bulk Supplements). I am in the process of buying some new stuff. I am pretty sure my L-Theanine went bad as well. You live and you learn though.