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#1 opales

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Posted 11 March 2006 - 03:03 PM


My understanding is that the Tech Review SENS challenge has not produced any plausible critiques of SENS, therefore I suggest the bets are raised! Raise the challenge to maybe 50000-100000$. Could Metuselah foundation and Tech Review work a deal on this?

SENS would get great round of publicity pointing that no one has answered the challenge and anyway, the sooner we find something wrong with it the better. If still no one finds anything wrong with it, that would be an EXTREMELY good leverage for the implementation of SENS.

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Posted 11 March 2006 - 04:43 PM

There will be a major announcement on the SENS Challenge on Monday - Pontin has now appointed a panel of judges, which obviously it's his prerogative to reveal but which will be ... newsworthy. Also, two entries have now been received and a third is threatened - again I can't name names, sorry - so actually I would now say that raising the fund is not the best use of 5-digit sums at this point. It would only become so if high-profile SENS skeptics start to take the public position that their time is worth more than that.

#3 JonesGuy

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Posted 11 March 2006 - 05:12 PM

Is there a good link to what you're talking about?

#4 ag24

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Posted 11 March 2006 - 08:21 PM

No - it'll all be announced on Monday, I don't know where exactly, but I'll of course mention it here as soon as I know, in the unlikely event that no one beats me to it.

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Posted 11 March 2006 - 08:27 PM

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for lots of good news.

:)

#6 ag24

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 10:38 PM

http://www.technolog...593,312,p1.html

#7 Live Forever

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 11:16 PM

Terrific, I (with, I am sure, many here) will be looking forward to the May/June 2006 issue of Technology Review. (the results won't be available before that will they?)

As far as the 4th rule:

4. Aubrey De Grey will reply to all submissions. The submitting scientist may respond. All three documents will be considered by the panel.

Hopefully it doesn't hurt that they will get in "the last word" by being able to respond to Aubrey's response, instead of going one more, and letting Aubrey respond to that response.


:)

#8 ag24

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 11:39 PM

We thought of the "last word" problem and came up with the compromise that they get the last word but it is limited to 200 words with no supplementary material.

#9 RighteousReason

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Posted 14 March 2006 - 12:45 AM

What's that smell in the air?


Oh..

I think it's Aubrey de Grey dominating the coming opposition.

[sfty]

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Posted 14 March 2006 - 12:50 AM

Venter is in ... what's the bet he is a closet SENSophile. :)

Aubrey, any chance for us to have a look at the submissions before you cast your response in stone? (maybe help out where we can)

#11 rjws

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Posted 14 March 2006 - 01:23 AM

Wow I can't Wait!!!


Aubrey is my hero:)

#12 ag24

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Posted 14 March 2006 - 07:30 AM

I have to keep the submissions (and my responses) confidential I'm afraid - Pontin very reasonably wants exclusivity of publication - but the biologists within the MF are helping out.

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Posted 14 March 2006 - 07:52 AM

That's understandable. Should you have need of any added analysis prior to a response don't hesitate to email. :)

#14 Aegist

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Posted 19 March 2006 - 05:16 AM

I love the feeling of progress...things happening...

#15 rjws

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Posted 19 March 2006 - 02:02 PM

Yea makes ya feel all giddy all over [tung]




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