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[Galaxyshock]

Terrorist attack to Moscow Russia yesterday, apparently by ISIS. Further confusing the security situation in Europe. Not sure what to think here, it's obvious the war in Ukraine is taking much larger toll on human lives, but that doesn't make it any less serious that civilians are dying in response to terrorism too. How this correlates to possible World War 3, I don't know but it appears more parties are getting involved in global acts of war.

[adamh]

I would not put a whole lot of faith in the isis connection. More likely it was done by ukraine with lots of help from the cia. They are still interviewing the suspects so more info will come out but consider this:

 

1. A couple weeks ago the us and uk authorities warned their citizens to avoid concert halls and other mass public events

2. Victoria nuland in her exit speech about a week ago said russia is due for some "unpleasant surprises"

3. The terrorists were headed to ukraine where there were people waiting to receive them

4. The media began immediately to say, in concert, that it was isis even before the dust had settled

 

The us, at least under biden, has been tipping its hand in advance of many events. Biden said in 2022 that the nordstream pipeline will not continue. When asked how he will bring it about he said "we have ways" but of course denied it later. The usa does not want to be implicated in this, it would look very bad and would isolate us even more. The world knows usa blew up the pipeline and we may find out that they had a hand in this as well.

[Daniel Cooper]

I would not put a whole lot of faith in the isis connection. More likely it was done by ukraine with lots of help from the cia. They are still interviewing the suspects so more info will come out but consider this:

 

 

The Russian FSB apparently has the shooters and some other support people in custody. If it was Ukraine I'm pretty sure they would have said so by now. They seem to be supporting the ISIS story with the added twist that they claim that these ISIS terrorist planned to escape to Ukraine when they were done. That may or may not be true, but I'm pretty sure they would claim that either way. It's doesn't really appear they had a plan to escape at all.

[Turnbuckle]

I would not put a whole lot of faith in the isis connection. More likely it was done by ukraine with lots of help from the cia. They are still interviewing the suspects so more info will come out but consider this:

 

1. A couple weeks ago the us and uk authorities warned their citizens to avoid concert halls and other mass public events

2. Victoria nuland in her exit speech about a week ago said russia is due for some "unpleasant surprises"

3. The terrorists were headed to ukraine where there were people waiting to receive them

4. The media began immediately to say, in concert, that it was isis even before the dust had settled

 

The us, at least under biden, has been tipping its hand in advance of many events. Biden said in 2022 that the nordstream pipeline will not continue. When asked how he will bring it about he said "we have ways" but of course denied it later. The usa does not want to be implicated in this, it would look very bad and would isolate us even more. The world knows usa blew up the pipeline and we may find out that they had a hand in this as well.

 

Agreed. This looks like a CIA project. ISIS members, after all, were trained in CIA terrorist training camps in Jordan for insertion into Syria. Only when they joined with former Iraqi officers and went off the Syrian reservation into Iraq did we start calling them terrorists. The patsies who actually did the attacks don't know who really hired them. Like the Saudis who hijacked the planes on 9/11, they were likely used by US neocons for their game of world empire.

[adamh]

The Russian FSB apparently has the shooters and some other support people in custody. If it was Ukraine I'm pretty sure they would have said so by now. They seem to be supporting the ISIS story with the added twist that they claim that these ISIS terrorist planned to escape to Ukraine when they were done. That may or may not be true, but I'm pretty sure they would claim that either way. It's doesn't really appear they had a plan to escape at all.

 

I have not heard that the russians blame isis. They have not yet said who they blame, most likely because they are still investigating. They don't want to let on just yet, who they also think was behind it.

 

The west has been investigating the nordstream pipeline incident for about a year and a half yet they say they have no idea who did it and they give up. Yet within an hour of the attack they were saying it was isis and they were sure about that. The uk, reuters, and the rest of the major media immediately began repeating it was isis. No investigation, no examination of evidence, they just immediately knew.

 

At a minimum, the usa knew something was going down. Why did they just before the attack warn people not to go to concerts and large public events near moscow? Why didn't they give information, if they had any, to russia to stop it? Obviously because they hate russia irrationally and wanted it to happen. They actually said concerts

 

Turnbuckle

"Agreed. This looks like a CIA project. ISIS members, after all, were trained in CIA terrorist training camps in Jordan for insertion into Syria"

 

If usa was behind it, I believe russia will find out and will kill those involved including those in ukraine. Zelensky will not be able to enjoy his stolen wealth. He will be on the run and hunted day and night. The same will happen to the others. I would not blame them if they killed biden and his advisors. Good riddance! I hope it happens soon, as long as it doesn't lead to war.

 

This changes things, the war will change in a more brutal way and ukr officials will likely be targeted whereas in the past, russia avoided that and allowed foreign officials to visit kiev unmolested. You will see no more such visits. Macron is scared, he won't go.

 

We have an idiot in the white house making the decisions (supposedly). If not the idiot, then its other unelected people in the biden regime. And, coincidentally, we are on the brink of world war, war has broken out in several regions and neocons in the white house are calling the shots. Is anyone else worried about this? 

[adamh]

Post script

 

The killers who were caught were from tajikistan, were recruited with an ad on the ukrainian tajik web site. They know nothing much, they were hired killers. They apparently caught the handlers or some of them, probably near the ukr border which is where the car was headed when stopped. They were within 60 miles of the border when caught. The handlers will likely be able to name some more names, especially when the ruskies 'lean' on them a little bit. They apparently got this info from the terrorists and immediately went out to catch the rest. I don't believe it stops at 11 people. There will be layers of deniability between the organizers and the handlers. Russia doesn't care, if they believe someone was involved, if they have enough evidence to convince themselves, they do not need to take them into court and try them, though they may do that. As people keep telling me, russia doesn't fool around and they will kill people

 

 

[Galaxyshock]

Images of strongly battered suspected terrorists in the news lately. I still lean towards ISIS-K as the offender, they have shown various videos of the attackers in their media channels. There may be more to come. I think the West actually warned Putin about the possible terrorist attack but he wouldn't listen.

 

Some more concerns to us worriers:

North Korea expanding suspected uranium enrichment site, satellite imagery shows

"Construction could increase floor space for centrifuges and comes after Kim Jong Un called for boosting nuke production"

[adamh]

The west gave a generic warning on march 7. It was not given directly to russia, it was just posted on a website and some news organizations reported on it. It gave no details, no info that might lead to the capture of the terrorists. Just a vague general warning. 

 

Isis was the cover story, the terrorists did take video and uploaded it to isis. Isis is perfectly happy to take credit for something they didn't do if its a big terror act. It makes them look big and dangerous. 

 

Russia has investigated and concluded that ukraine was involved with help from usa and uk. Did you overlook the fact that they were headed toward ukraine when caught? 7 others were caught including handlers

 

Are you sad that they were "battered"? I would have done worse plus the fact they have to get info out of them right away in order to catch the rest of the gang. The usa and uk way of coddling criminals has lead to our shocking crime levels. 

[Galaxyshock]

Are you sad that they were "battered"? I would have done worse plus the fact they have to get info out of them right away in order to catch the rest of the gang. The usa and uk way of coddling criminals has lead to our shocking crime levels. 

 

Nope, they deserved it. Perhaps I want to see a common enemy like ISIS to both Russia and the West - that would perhaps unify us a bit and decrease tensions. Well I think the whole world needs a common enemy or threat, like a small asteroid in collision course to earth, to penetrate our little brains the fact that we are all in this together.