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Thoughts on Timothy Ferris's weight-gain protocol?


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#1 Ron

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 05:20 PM


This is the guy who wrote 4-Hour Work Week...now with a book on hacking the body. He strikes me as a slippery character but I'm curious what people think of his regimen:
http://www.iwillteac...-geek-to-freak/

First, I followed a simple supplement regimen:

Morning: NO-Xplode (2 scoops), Slo-Niacin (or timed-release niacinamide, 500 mg)

Each meal: ChromeMate (chromium polynicotinate, not picolinate, 200 mcg), alpha-lipoic acid (200 mg)

Pre-workout: BodyQUICK (2 capsules 30 mins. prior)

Post-workout: Micellean (30 g micellar casein protein)

Prior to bed: policosanol (23 mg), ChromeMate (200 mcg), alpha-lipoic acid (200 mg), Slo-Niacin (500 mg)

No anabolics were used.

From a training standpoint, there were four basic principles that made it happen, all of which will be expanded upon in the next chapter:

1. PERFORM ONE-SET-TO-FAILURE FOR EACH EXERCISE.

Follow Arthur Jones’s general recommendation of one- set- to- failure (i.e., reaching the point where you can no longer move the weight) for 80–120 seconds of total time under tension per exercise. Take at least three minutes of rest between exercises.

2. USE A 5/5 REP CADENCE.

Perform every repetition with a 5/5 cadence (five seconds up, five seconds down) to eliminate momentum and ensure constant load.

3. FOCUS ON 2–10 EXERCISES PER WORKOUT, NO MORE.

Focus on 2–10 exercises per workout (including at least one multi- joint exercise for pressing, pulling, and leg movements). I chose to exercise my entire body each workout to elicit a heightened hormonal response (testosterone, growth hormone, IGF-1, etc.).

Here is the sequence I used during this experiment (“+” = superset, which means no rest between exercises):

* Pullover + Yates’s bent row
* Shoulder- width leg press
* Pec-deck + weighted dips
* Leg curl
* Reverse thick-bar curl (purchase cut 2″ piping from Home Depot If needed, which you can then slide plates onto)
* Seated calf raises
* Manual neck resistance
* Machine crunches

All of these exercises can be found at www.fourhourbody.com/geek-to-freak.



#2 sapentia

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 03:41 PM

This is the guy who wrote 4-Hour Work Week...now with a book on hacking the body. He strikes me as a slippery character but I'm curious what people think of his regimen:
http://www.iwillteac...-geek-to-freak/

First, I followed a simple supplement regimen:

Morning: NO-Xplode (2 scoops), Slo-Niacin (or timed-release niacinamide, 500 mg)

Each meal: ChromeMate (chromium polynicotinate, not picolinate, 200 mcg), alpha-lipoic acid (200 mg)

Pre-workout: BodyQUICK (2 capsules 30 mins. prior)

Post-workout: Micellean (30 g micellar casein protein)

Prior to bed: policosanol (23 mg), ChromeMate (200 mcg), alpha-lipoic acid (200 mg), Slo-Niacin (500 mg)

No anabolics were used.

From a training standpoint, there were four basic principles that made it happen, all of which will be expanded upon in the next chapter:

1. PERFORM ONE-SET-TO-FAILURE FOR EACH EXERCISE.

Follow Arthur Jones’s general recommendation of one- set- to- failure (i.e., reaching the point where you can no longer move the weight) for 80–120 seconds of total time under tension per exercise. Take at least three minutes of rest between exercises.

2. USE A 5/5 REP CADENCE.

Perform every repetition with a 5/5 cadence (five seconds up, five seconds down) to eliminate momentum and ensure constant load.

3. FOCUS ON 2–10 EXERCISES PER WORKOUT, NO MORE.

Focus on 2–10 exercises per workout (including at least one multi- joint exercise for pressing, pulling, and leg movements). I chose to exercise my entire body each workout to elicit a heightened hormonal response (testosterone, growth hormone, IGF-1, etc.).

Here is the sequence I used during this experiment (“+” = superset, which means no rest between exercises):

* Pullover + Yates’s bent row
* Shoulder- width leg press
* Pec-deck + weighted dips
* Leg curl
* Reverse thick-bar curl (purchase cut 2″ piping from Home Depot If needed, which you can then slide plates onto)
* Seated calf raises
* Manual neck resistance
* Machine crunches

All of these exercises can be found at www.fourhourbody.com/geek-to-freak.



NO! This approach would only be effective for those who have little to no prior weight training as would most forms of resistance training, but for anyone who is resistance training conditioned this would amount to an epic fail. The variable that is not mentioned in the above is diet which is foundational to weight gain. Regardless of weight training you can eat more and gain mass (both muscle and fat). This approach is targeted at those who don't know any better. Lastly, if he is interested in peak hormonal response to training why did he not include the three exercises which release the most testosterone: deadlifts, squats, and bench press. Any weight gain protocol should have these compound lifts (plus pullups/chinups) combined with a proper diet first and foremost to see real results.

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#3 mikeinnaples

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 04:20 PM

Not to mention that wanting to increase size drastically is silly anyway ...at least in regards to overall long term health.

#4 kenny001

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 11:52 AM

yes, they do much more for hacking the body so that they can strengthen their health.
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#5 JD.

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 06:53 AM

I gave his book a read and even tried the occam's protocol workout about twice. I think his ideas may be valid for achieving the maximum gains/time spent in gym ratio (occam's workouts never took me more than 15 minutes), but for anyone who has a halfway decent amount of time to spend working out, they would be MUCH better off going with a more normal routine.

Also, the 5v5 rep cadence is absolute garbage




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