MorganM, on 24 October 2011 - 05:57 PM, said:
TheFountain, on 22 October 2011 - 10:31 PM, said:
I think you mean the inflammatory reactions *some* people experience in relation to wheat and gluten consumption. But then i'm not advocating the high consumption of these carbs.
I sometimes think people think I am making up my reactions to high fat, low carb dieting. My arguments rest firmly on the prospective phenotype discussion, and of course this proceeds from first hand experience. Plenty of asians do well on high carb diets as well. This is borne out in population studies. But I don't want to get this thread too side tracked. I already have other threads dedicated to this subject.
It appears that you think some of us are often in a state of ketosis and hardly eating any carbs. I guess that's why I react the way I do to some of your comments.
I'm not sure that using Asians is a good example. They may be better equipped to deal with high carb diets than other people from other cultures. Also, they only eat rice, which really is not that bad, even if you over do it a bit.
And gluten can be inflammatory for anyone, even those without a real sensitivity to it. Also, the wheat products in this country may have far more gluten in them than other parts of the world, which might be one of the reason for all of the sensitivities/allergies developing here-too much exposure to a bad thing.
The argument is that receptor abnormalities is what gives rise to a persons body not being able to tolerate carbohydrates/insulin. Otherwise as stephen guyenet put it, insulin should actually help regulate body fat levels in healthy individuals.
In terms of culture, a lot of americans are a mixed breed of various european cultures, and with the past few generations, even a lot of asiatic/white mixes or latino and black as well. I don't know how mixing races affects the different phenotypes but ostensibly couldn't they cause, amongst other things, leptin sensitivity and problems metabolizing carbs and/or dietary fat (depending on the gene mutation)? I have a lot of irish in me, maybe there is some kind of potato famine gene active in me that allows for the metabolism of higher amount of carbohydrate?
All this certainty with regard to results just seems foolish. I do not experience what you do when I eat wheat or grain carbs, and to add to the problem I do not garner the results a high fat, low carb diet is suppose to bestow on a person. I have tried it for months. Same supplement and exercise regimen I am on now (roughly the same calorie intake). I see a lot less mid section fat on a higher carb, lower fat diet than the reverse. I'm not making it up. And i'm not the only one.
Edited by TheFountain, 24 October 2011 - 06:26 PM.