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Quantum Archaeology Turing Church dec 2012


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Posted 17 July 2013 - 08:31 PM

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Lots of talks on this breaking area of science

Washington, DC, United States
March 15th, 2013


RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD

First the species, then the individual.

The reason for that order is the progressive complexity of the calculations.
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#572 Innocent Re: Quantum Archaeology Turing Church dec 2012

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 08:45 PM

-sceptics should note:

1. There is NO known limit on how far we can go back to resurrect (resurrection 800 million years old have been done on extinct species @ Oregon university).

2. We can estimate when resurrections of individual men up to 1 million years ago will be viable by

Order of Complexity

X Calculation power needed

- and when that will be possible (2027 IMO

For the dead it doesn't matter if resurrection is done in a billion years - only one moment of subjective time will have elapsed for them.

Until scientists can do the equivalent of magic, their science is not yet mature.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008OW138Y

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#573 Innocent Re: Quantum Archaeology Turing Church dec 2012

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 08:56 PM

CLICK TO ENLARGE>>>>

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It;s not up to scientists to get people signed up for Cryonics.

Its up to Insurance agents who are skilled at covering people. QA may not happen for some unknown reason.

Objections are listed here:

Reference Article on QA

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#574 Innocent Re: Quantum Archaeology Turing Church dec 2012

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 09:02 PM

WHAT TO DO IF YOU WANT TO GET RESURRECTED BY QUANTUM ARCHAEOLOGY


NOTHING.
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#575 Innocent Re: Quantum Archaeology Turing Church dec 2012

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 09:08 PM

WHAT TO DO IF YOU'VE KILLED SOMEONE

NOTHING.

They're not dead and you're both immortal.

Death is a logical impossibility so long as archaeology exists..
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#576 Innocent Re: Quantum Archaeology Turing Church dec 2012

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 09:20 PM

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Gridding events (like a human being's life and thoughts) is one part of the giant
quantumarchaeology grid


where "Number rules the universe" Pythagoras

space google
(real one's coming)

Sky-Map.org



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#577 Innocent Re: Quantum Archaeology Turing Church dec 2012

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 09:56 PM

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Data- thoughts and all.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0RWLxOFGLY

describable, reconfigurable lawful traceable by calculation using the laws of physics.

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#578 Innocent Re: Quantum Archaeology Turing Church dec 2012

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 11:02 PM

INTELLIGENT KNIFE INVENTED

100% accuracy in medical operations

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More>>

BBC breaking

'Intelligent' knife detects cancer

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Note data analysis:)

"Professor Nicholson (left) said: “The intelligent knife project is one part of our major translational research programme to create new real-time diagnostics to improve surgical decision-making. It represents a major step forward in the application of systems medicine approaches for monitoring and improving the surgical patient journey through the hospital environment.”" Imperial College
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#579 Innocent Re: Quantum Archaeology Turing Church dec 2012

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 12:12 AM

"...scientists have been able to use new technology to work from just a single cell of a microbe and then sequence its complete genetic code."

Critics of QA said this was impossible!

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The findings, published in the journal Nature, involve the genetic sequencing of hitherto almost entirely unexplored branches of the tree of life, in an area known as “microbial dark matter”.
Attempts to research the precise nature of whole swathes of single-celled microorganisms, the most diverse and abundant variety of species on Earth, had been limited by the fact that they are notoriously difficult to reproduce in a laboratory."

Breaking
http://www.independe...es-8709618.html

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http://www.pbs.org/n...ark-matter.html

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http://www.pbs.org/n...ark-matter.html
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#580 Innocent Re: Quantum Archaeology Turing Church dec 2012

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 12:35 AM

TED De-Extinction talks 2013:

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INTRO

John Fahey – “A New Century of Exploration
Chris Anderson – “TED Welcomes You
Carl Zimmer – “(Some) EXTINCTION IS (not necessarily) FOREVER

WHO

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Isabella Kirkland – “A Still Life of Stilled Life
Susan Haig – “Bringing Back the Birds of Our Dreams
Hendrik Poinar – “Not All Mammoths Were Woolly
Michael Archer – “Second Chance for Tasmanian Tigers and Fantastic Frogs
Joel Sartore – “Endangered Studio

HOW

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Soon:Escaping to a garden near you.

Alberto Fernández-Arias – “The First De-extinction
Oliver Ryder – “Genetic Rescue and Biodiversity Banking
Robert Lanza – “The Use of Cloning and Stem Cells to Resurrect Life
George Church – “Hybridizing with Extinct Species
Michael McGrew – “Pigeons from Chickens
Ben Novak – “How to Bring Passenger Pigeons All the Way Back



WHY AND WHY NOT

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History as you've never seen it


Stanley Temple – “De-extinction: A Game-changer for Conservation Biology
David Ehrenfeld – “Extinction Reversal? Don’t Count on It.
Kate Jones – “Why and Why Not Is a Matter of Specifics
James Tate – “Rules, Regs, and Reactions
Beth Shapiro – “Ancient DNA: What It Is and What It Could Be




Hank Greely – “De-extinction: Hubris or Hope?
WILD AGAIN

Henri Kerkdijk-Otten – “Restoring Europe’s Wildlife with Aurochs and Others
Kent Redford – “Tainted Species?
William Powell – “Reviving the American Forest with the American Chestnut
David Burney – “Rewilding, Ecological Surrogacy, and Now… De-extinction?
Michael Mace – “California Condors Back from the Brink



Waiting in the wings:


Australopithecus:

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Kenyanthropus platyops

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Homo ergaster
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The Black Death - already back & in labs worldwide
some in city centers.
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#581 Innocent Re: Quantum Archaeology Turing Church dec 2012

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 12:42 AM

Philosophers - think!

While they have been sleeping living history is become literal!

There never was a better time to do nothing!

R. I. P.

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#582 Innocent Re: Quantum Archaeology Turing Church dec 2012

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 12:57 AM

Raising the dead : Nature .com

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Meaningless

Quite a lot of talks to take in.
Summary:
We're doing extinct species and will do dead people about 2027
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#583 Innocent Re: Quantum Archaeology Turing Church dec 2012

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 01:07 AM

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Author
Michael Crichton


before his first death

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#584 Innocent Re: Quantum Archaeology Turing Church dec 2012

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 01:17 AM

Cosmologist claims Universe may not be expanding


-if this is true prediction (calculation into the future) may be possible.

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Cosmologist claims Universe may not be expanding
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#585 Innocent Re: Quantum Archaeology Turing Church dec 2012

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 01:22 AM

A selective list of sub-disciplines distinguished by time period or region of study is given below.The following is a list of other sub-disciplines. Some of these are not areas of study in their own right, and are only methods to be used in larger projects.wiki
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#586 Innocent Re: Quantum Archaeology Turing Church dec 2012

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 01:31 AM

The Sea which we will have to calculate




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#587 Innocent Re: Quantum Archaeology Turing Church dec 2012

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 02:06 AM

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The battle by the few against the many is a theme in history.

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London WW II
Resurrection is moving out of the dark mind which says things are impossible ---> thru religion---> through futurism---.

and into the hands of statisticians.

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American Statistical Association

www.amstat.org/‎
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Royal Statistical Society

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https://www.rss.org.uk/‎


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In less than a generation on someone's death you will phone a statistician. 20th Century
21st Century
UK 20th Century
21st Century
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Billionaire Steve Woolfram has proved there are aliens in numbers.

in

A New Kind of Science


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Stats & maths professor Ed Thorpe beat Las Vegas at poker
then became a billionaire beating world stockmarlets.

In seven years your mobile phone will do any stats you want, predict or trace almost anything you want,

and commission almost anything you want
eg "build me a production plant and raise the money with this $10 in my a/c."


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Hologram and quantum entangled wireless, non-chargable smartphones are in vodophone & other research labs currently.

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#588 Innocent Re: Quantum Archaeology Turing Church dec 2012

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 10:13 AM

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New evidence for warm-blooded dinosaurs

Today:
New evidence for warm-blooded dinosaurs

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University of Adelaide research has shown new evidence that dinosaurs were warm-blooded like birds and mammals, not cold-blooded like reptiles as commonly believed.


Read more at: http://phys.org/news...osaurs.html#jCp

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Plant-eating dinosaurs replaced teeth often, carried spares

Some of the largest herbivorous dinosaurs replaced their teeth at a rate of approximately one tooth every 1-2 months to compensate for tooth wear from crunching up plants, according to research published July 17 in the open .

we build a dynamic archaeology grid

on it are plotted everything on the Tree of life

beginning with the

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Tree of Life Web Project,

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Note this is still for similar groups and not yet for individuals which is more complex (but only more calculation with science laws and artefacts).
A Law of Conservation of Information is self-evident: everything is connected to it's neighbours (and much more, but that will do to trace back).

20,000 new kinds of proteins from Canadian Lake:


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http://www.cbc.ca/ne...ake-hallam.html

CBC
Canadian lake offers new glimpse at 'tree of life'
(today)
""Every time we sequence a genome, almost invariably about 40 per cent of the gene content is new, hypothetical," he added. "We don't know what it does.""

OneZoom Tree of Life Explorer


OneZoom Tree of Life Explorer

OneZoom is committed to heightening awareness about the diversity of life on earth, its evolutionary history and the threats of extinction. This website allows you to explore the tree of life in a completely new way: it's like a map, everything is on one page, all you have to do is zoom in and out."


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Archaeology is still artefact based. But is moving to calculation.
As it does it moves onto Moore's Law and accelerates in capacity.

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Hendrik Poinar – “Not All Mammoths Were Woolly” TED



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#589 Innocent Re: Quantum Archaeology Turing Church dec 2012

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 10:33 AM

"Last of the Neanderthals

Eurasia was theirs alone for 200,000 years.
Then the newcomers arrived."


http://ngm.nationalg...als-photography

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"tree relating this genome to the genomes of Neandertals from Croatia, from Germany and from the Caucasus as well as the Denisovan genome recovered from a finger bone excavated at Deniosva Cave. It shows that this individual is closely related to these other Neandertals. Thus, both Neandertals and Denisovans have inhabited this cave in southern Siberia, presumably at different times."

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"The Neandertal Genome Project Website"

Return of the Neanderthals - National Geographic


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"We're looking at an ancient population that had thick, dense bones and strong muscles," Hawks says. "If you could find some way to tweak the human biology in a way to make it more Neanderthal-like, that might treat osteoporosis and muscle wasting."
For now, the technology for studying Neanderthal biology remains out of reach. But many experts predict that it's only a matter of time. "My own over-under number is 30 years," Hawks says."

30 years might be true at today's rate of linear progress.

But next week acceleration in progress is going to be faster, and Kurzweil has shown man is incapable of thinking exponentially: we think linearly.

So that 30 years will be done in under 10. maybe less.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRfWU-ZpLZ8

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#590 Innocent Re: Quantum Archaeology Turing Church dec 2012

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 11:21 AM

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North American Archeology has some bizarre contradictions

Novel explores some of them.

THE MOUNDS ANOMALY

"Does it make sense to discount artifacts that appear Jewish, Chinese, Christian, or from some other old world culture because they were found in North America? Was the Aleutian Land Bridge really the only possible route early inhabitants could have followed to populate the Americas?"

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#591 Innocent Re: Quantum Archaeology Turing Church dec 2012

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 12:58 PM

Robots are gearing up but their wave wont break on the world until 2015.

Then they will explode like 3D Printers seemed to.

Their price will fall even faster as many of the parts are ubiquitous and impossible to patent.

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BBC yesterday

Driverless cars to be tested on UK roads by end of 2013

Driverless cars are guided by a system of sensors and cameras and are seen as potentially safer and more efficient than regular vehicles.
As a safety measure, a back-up driver will ride along during tests who can take over in case of emergency.
Test track
The plans have been unveiled in a blueprint by the Department for Transport, as part of a £28bn investment in British roads to reduce congestion. The report says driverless vehicles are capable of driving on their own "using knowledge of the environment in which they are driving"."

generally

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW5AnrtVor8

This is pretty fast for the UK.

The argument that they'll reduce accidents because they're stimulate production status symbols is a great one.

It'd be good if they can rise vertically on telescopic legs to part in a space of only 1 meter:)

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Two NASA robots have been chosen for the challenge in a few weeks,
"Teams will have to navigate their high-tech robots through a rigorous obstacle course, including driving and connecting hoses to valves."

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhVu2hxm07E&feature=player_embedded


Already In use:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8_lfxPI5ObM

By law robots have to carry a computer memory log

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2015 is where this graph gets interesting: in the home

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#592 Innocent Re: Quantum Archaeology Turing Church dec 2012

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 01:05 PM

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 01:15 PM

Reconstructing History:

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I dont know when nanobots are going to be out of the labs, but they'll obviously be mega:



Nanobots Could Perform Surgeries in The Future (+ VID)

Mashable Today

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"Researchers in Zurich are building nearly microscopic bots to help with delicate surgeries."

Nanobopts are going to be needed for cryonic recovery and QA

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#594 Innocent Re: Quantum Archaeology Turing Church dec 2012

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 01:25 PM

Interesting alternate path of Quantum Archaeology:

Simulating The Deceased

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Institute for Ethics and Emerging Technologies-12 Jul 2013

"Although today, technologies that can accurately simulate a deceased person’s life experience, their consciousness, emotions, and memories do not exist, many experts believe that exponential advances in computers, artificial intelligence, and communications technologies could bring this dream into reality by mid-century or before."


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#595 Innocent Re: Quantum Archaeology Turing Church dec 2012

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 01:49 PM

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 02:18 PM

Lasers Boost Space Communications


"Before NASA even existed, science-fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke in 1945 imagined spacecraft that could send messages back to Earth using beams of light. After decades of setbacks and dead ends, the technology to do this is finally coming of age."

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Technology is doing experiments in the environment, or changing it;s data.

When we have enough recursive calculation systems we wont need to do any.


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Speculations Concerning the First Ultraintelligent Machine.

www.stat.vt.edu/tech_reports/2005/GoodTechReport.pdf‎

"The survival of Man depends on the early construction of an Ultra -intelligent machine."

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#597 pirlo Re: Quantum Archaeology Turing Church dec 2012

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 10:09 PM

Innocent ,in the worst of the cases , suppose that universe is non-deterministic and no-local and information is lost and non-
reversible , how to resurrect people then?

it will be by brute force ? (trying all posibilities /combinations of all entire universe until the resurrected is alive again)? what do you think?
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#598 Innocent Re: Quantum Archaeology Turing Church dec 2012

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 10:39 PM

Innocent ,in the worst of the cases , suppose that universe is non-deterministic and no-local and information is lost and non-
reversible , how to resurrect people then?

it will be by brute force ? (trying all possibilities /combinations of all entire universe until the resurrected is alive again)? what do you think?


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Hello pinto.

1. Our universe is absolutely governed by laws.

2. When a system is absolutely lawful it must logically be retrodicable, ie you must in principle be capable of predicting backwards.

This is the basis of archaeology.

While it is theoretically possible to reconstruct the past by brute force computing alone, eg generating all possible histories -- then you would certainly describe all men in all states ever- .

It would be hard to argue against the certainty of resurrection from this view.

But I think we can better by drawing trajectories starting with artefacts from the Records, and the Tree of Life
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We measure histories routinely eg by taking core samples of ice or counting and measuring tree rings. And then doing calculations.

3. Measurement and calculation is crude compared to what is going to be possible as machine intelligence comes after 2022..

The narrowing of all possible happenings are the short-cuts from maths, statistics and cross-referencing from samples in the present, added to the laws of physics.

Most possibilities -almost all- are impossible because they will conflict from another situation which has already occupied that space-time.

Then you just have a software or system to judge which one is correct by other measurements.

4. Every event is unique.

That is the Pauli Exclusion Principle.

Also the size of sums shouldn't phase you, because:

5. Mathematics needed for Resurrection reduces proportionately to the artefacts you find.


Events can be plotted on graphs.

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As you configure each one, it helps configure it's neighbors.

Records which will form part of the complete Record or

quantum archaeology grid

already exist with zoom facilities eg the Tree of Life the Cosmological History. These specialist records will be calculated simultaneously, to give a dynamic map of the past - past the level of individual human thought. I suppose it might look like an explosion, but slowed down like a universe
in motion.
This is already being done in the Military Defence Grids - here for the South Pole.
Each part is limited by co-ordinates and expands increasingly until the final zoom is scale 1:1 real time by most recent satellite pass.

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Records are kept and it can be run backwards or forwards like an old moviie reel.

Zoom:

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It obviously doesn't have to be graphical but is also lists of numbers.

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Feb 2008 : "I suspect--although I don't know--that there is a Law of Conservation of information, so that in principle no information is ever lost and is in principle capable of recovery" Robert Ettinger

This Law has to be formally drafted in science and it is not up to philosophers nor the religious community to do that.

There are no right/wrong answers: just which model you are going to use to examine things.
Cryonics is a valid model and cant be overturned. But QA is another.

But there had better be no conflicts or your model is invalid, and this is a real problem in physics at present.

we need more observation, measurement, experiment, discovery and computing.

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#599 Innocent Re: Quantum Archaeology Turing Church dec 2012

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 11:16 PM

We're coming at reurrection from many ways:

In molecular biology Harvard Professor George Church:

George Church. Regenesis. New York: Basic Books. ISBN 0-465-02175-1.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEbLONsL5EA

Foresnically:




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Posted 18 July 2013 - 11:29 PM

exhaustively

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Cryonically:)

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Longevity Cartoons

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