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[noos]

Hi. I think I have a mild case of irritable bowel.

Dr gave me
http://en.m.wikipedi...wiki/Pinaverium
But how long can one take it?

Foods that I know cause problems are sweets, cakes, chocolate.

Can you please give suggestions?
What about:
Coffee, tea
Herbal teas
Digestive enzymes
Simeticone
Domperidone
Fiber, sources
Activated charcoal

I dont have constipation now.

Thanks in advance.

Edited by noos, 11 May 2013 - 12:26 PM.

[niner]

IBS sucks. I recently had it after a long course of antibiotics. I just took probiotics and ate yogurt, and it gradually subsided. I also had it a number of years ago. That time I think that a shift to a better diet (more fiber, less wheat, but not zero wheat) was helpful. Sugar is a common thread among the things that are giving you trouble. This might be an indication of having the wrong microbes in your gut, so probiotics might be something to try. Of course, continue to avoid the things that are problematic.

Pinaverium is said to be well tolerated. The wiki stub said: "It is most effective when taken for a full course of treatment and is not designed for immediate symptom relief or sporadic, intermittent use." I don't know what constitutes a normal course of treatment, though. If you've been taking it for a couple weeks and there are no changes in your condition, I'd consider pausing it. You might want to discuss it with your doctor. I went to a gastroenterologist the first time I had it, and he told me to use supplemental fiber. He didn't prescribe any drugs for it.

[noos]

Yes sugar, especially if with flour is terrible, inmediate gas.

I bought kefir granules but never prepared it.

I think this is also stress related.

[tham]

IBS basically involves a leaky gut, and formulations combining glutamine, NAG
and FOS/probiotics are meant for this condition.

Douglas Labs' Intestamine is one, but quite expensive. Intestamine was originally
formulated and sold by AMNI (Advanced Medical Nutrition), but since Douglas Labs
took it over, their prices have virtually doubled.


Note that it is selling under the Douglas Labs label at $ 69.20 :

http://www.emersonec...in/PID-INT.aspx


The same product in this health food store :

AMNI INTESTAMINE 12.6 OZ (= 360 grams) - $ 34.00

http://richmaffei.co...cellaneous.html




RenewLife also has a good product, IntestiNew :

" Whether you have IBS, leaky gut or if your intestines have become damaged from
parasites, candida albicans overgrowth or any other ailment that affects the health
and permeability of the intestines, this product is indispensable in healing and
rebuilding the intestinal walls. L-Glutamine not only repairs the entire tract, but also
provides your body with energy as it is a very important amino acid."

http://www.iherb.com...162-g/7772/?p=2


RevitalX's Intestinal Rejuvenation also looks good :

http://www.iherb.com...-lb-907-g/16757

[tham]

Domperidone, an old dopamine D2 blocker, helps with intestinal motility as
well flatulence, and has been prescribed by doctors for IBS in Malaysia here
for decades, typically at 5 mg three times daily, before food.

I have some in my office drawer, at least two generics here which you can
buy over the counter.

Relatively safe if taken for short periods, but not approved by the FDA as
you can read here .

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Domperidone

[noos]

Thanks tham. Yes I tried domperidone but I would not like to take it long term.

[zorba990]

Sodium butyrate
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/22738315
http://www.needs.com...100/b_TE_Neesby

[eddielang]

You might consider the GAPS diet. Or an elimination diet.

You are likely gluten intolerant, and possibly other grains, dairy nightshades and legumes are causing an autoimmune reaction as well.

Best question to ask isn't what to take, but what is causing this, or what to remove.

[scottknl]

I had IBS for 10 years and visited many doctors and tried many things. Best result for me was an elimination diet along with probiotics and a carefully constructed light diet. I started with only rice and oatmeal without any milk or sugars. Once that was well tolerated I gradually added some well cooked easy to digest root veggies. Rice milk and soy milk next. More complex veggies. Finally leafy greens and beans. Once I was able to digest raw salads, then the IBS was finally gone. I also used kefir, sauerkraut, kombucha tea and yogurts as probiotics. I never did add back all the sugary pop, cakes and white breads back into my diet on a regular basis.

[daouda]

I had (still have but to a much lesser degree) a very similar problem after a long bout of wide-spectrum antibiotics cocktails. Ive done all the thing mentionned above and they helped (LOTS of probiotics, butyrate, glutamine, avoiding sugar/processed grains and wheat in any form and legumes, insoluble fiber, digestive enzymes, zinc, NAG, also I recommend TRIPHALA and seacure) but one thing that made quickly a huge difference was stopping N-Acetyl-Cysteine (was taking it for other reasons for a very long time and stopped because I ran out of it), maybe NAC - a potent mucolytic - is not good to take long term for those with inflammed intestinal lining.

[tydi]

Anything that could potentially upset the stomach will make for a very long day. i think alkaline consumption could be a source of treatment, avoiding more acidic type foods as well as certain types of medications that you may be taking.

I really like the berrys, antioxidants and very green, and very healthy vegetables. I would try to avoid Whey protein and go with Soy protein isolate if possible, due to some potential dietary restrictions with lactose, which is and can be something that can also exacerbate the problem further.

Also, there are a range of medications that can be used including the Cannabis plant depending on your location that possess a HIGH significance of importance due to the overwhelming data on the endocannabinoid system (1) located in the gastrointestinal tract, and for soothing pain. a predominant ROA and dosage depending on your work needs, as well as attention and tolerance could be something of interest.

i have found myself having to rely on it more often due to my own overwhelming pain from gastrointestinal issues, as well as being able to fix them through processing simplified lists of product that is ingested, as we are what we eat.

Lots of fluids to keep your body flushed and clean also seems to help when it comes to bloating, irritation and the feeling of "my insides are being thrown out" issue.

Hope this helps!

Citation: (1)

http://www.medpageto...welDisease/1548

[Hip]

Five drops of fennel essential oil each day (diluted in cooking oil before swallowing) works pretty well for both IBS-D and IBS-C.

I found that the herbal formula triphala helps my IBS-D.

Also:

IBS Improved After Removing Chloramine From My Drinking Water