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#1 Y13N1

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 03:56 PM


The best method I know of is to learn what the causes of death are from CDC WONDER, and then research each cause of death individually.

 

This method have the following disadvantages:

  • The articles found often are vague, often ambiguous, and occasionally contradictory.
  • The articles found are often littered with irrelevant or repeated information.
  • This method may prevent one from learning about information that helps prevent multiple causes of death (such as anti-aging).

A method that may improve efficiency is research causes of death in descending order of abstraction (for example researching transport deaths first, then pedestrian deaths, then deaths from crossing the street). My concern of this method is that it may increase repeated information.

 

Advice would be appreciated.



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Posted 15 June 2014 - 03:41 AM

You could ask a woman because on average they live seven years longer than men.


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#3 Y13N1

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 02:46 PM

You could ask a woman because on average they live seven years longer than men.

Wouldn't following the advice of reliable websites for health information increase lifespan more than 7 years? Also, do women live longer due to their actions, or is it due to their genetic makeup?



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Posted 16 June 2014 - 07:56 PM

You could ask a woman because on average they live seven years longer than men.

 

I don't think it's possible to learn to have menstrual cycle.

 

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 05:19 AM

Take unplanned cold showers. It hurts like a venin in the ass (as a side note if you do it randomly and not daily), but for the rest of the day there's nothing else worse in your mind, consciously. That makes you keep walking.

 

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 03:37 PM

Take unplanned cold showers. It hurts like a venin in the ass (as a side note if you do it randomly and not daily), but for the rest of the day there's nothing else worse in your mind, consciously. That makes you keep walking.

 

thb-johnny-walker-keep-walking-hd-wallpa

 

This is off topic. I'm looking for a source of information for how to prevent dying, which you didn't give. Unless you think taking cold showers is all one needs to do to minimize chance of death, this doesn't answer my question. 

 

Also, what are your sources?



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Posted 21 July 2014 - 06:44 PM

CR + ON + EX + AA + MDU + SAR

Calorie Restriction

Optimal Nutrition

Exercise

Accident Avoidance

Minimize Drug Use (prescription and non-prescription)

Support Aging Research (to address causes of death not already addressed above)

 

That list will help you avoid many of the most common forms of early death.

 

Some claim that a vegan diet with proper supplementation will also help, and you can implement a CR Vegan diet with proper supplementation.

https://www.youtube....h?v=30gEiweaAVQ which shows how to reduce the leading causes of death.  In my mind being CRON already catches most of the same benefits that a vegan diet would bring, and so I don't think it's strictly necessary to eat a vegan diet, just a light, well balanced diet. It's more a matter of personal choice.


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#8 Y13N1

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 03:17 PM

CR + ON + EX + AA + MDU + SAR

Calorie Restriction

Optimal Nutrition

Exercise

Accident Avoidance

Minimize Drug Use (prescription and non-prescription)

Support Aging Research (to address causes of death not already addressed above)

 

That list will help you avoid many of the most common forms of early death.

 

Some claim that a vegan diet with proper supplementation will also help, and you can implement a CR Vegan diet with proper supplementation.

https://www.youtube....h?v=30gEiweaAVQ which shows how to reduce the leading causes of death.  In my mind being CRON already catches most of the same benefits that a vegan diet would bring, and so I don't think it's strictly necessary to eat a vegan diet, just a light, well balanced diet. It's more a matter of personal choice.

 

Thanks for the response. Some questions:

Why would supporting aging research significantly decrease an individual's risk of death? Isn't a single individual's support too small to have a noticeable impact on one's chance of dying?

What are your sources? The youtube video? (I haven't watched it yet.)



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Posted 01 August 2014 - 04:29 AM

The youtube video is from a well meaning doctor that substantiates much of what he says with supporting articles.  It's a good use of an hour to watch it. 

As for my sources, I've been aging much better since I started actively fighting against it 5 years ago.  I've proved to myself that good lifestyle promotes superior health.  I'm willing to bet that translates into longevity, but you can't prove anything much about longevity in humans.  It's just too expensive and takes too long to find out.  Having said that I belong to the CRSociety and keep up with their postings, and I've read many studies on many topics and discussions and my list is really just distilled advice from that exercise.  Also my job allows me to look up some of the pay-walled studies at my local University for free :). Some of my favorite studies are 

1) Midlife gene expressions identify modulators of aging through dietary interventions

 

2) Lessons from dietary studies in Adventists 

 

3) Metabolic syndrome lipid improvements with balanced diet 15/40/45 P:F:C

4) Ornish's cholesterol reduction on low fat diet

 

As for SAR, it's on the end of the list because you should do all the other stuff first.  Once you've done all the easy stuff, the only thing that's really left (if you want to go further) is to support aging research.  (either with funding or brain power!) It's kind of a shot in the dark, but given the progress in information technology and genetic science research I think it's likely that aging research will provide meaningful life extension in our lifetimes even if we don't reach escape velocity.  I figure I've got a good 50 years left to go.  If you look at the progress from 1964 (50 years ago) until now, you can see some big differences that show just how far these advances can take us in that time frame.  If people make a real effort to support research into the SENS program to repair some or all of the causes of age related damage, we can make everyone's health better for longer.   I think that will make a massive difference in the way people live and allow them to be more productive.  It becomes a virtuous circle if the gains made go on to spawn further advances.



#10 Y13N1

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Posted 01 August 2014 - 04:20 PM

The youtube video is from a well meaning doctor that substantiates much of what he says with supporting articles.  It's a good use of an hour to watch it. 

As for my sources, I've been aging much better since I started actively fighting against it 5 years ago.  I've proved to myself that good lifestyle promotes superior health.  I'm willing to bet that translates into longevity, but you can't prove anything much about longevity in humans.  It's just too expensive and takes too long to find out.  Having said that I belong to the CRSociety and keep up with their postings, and I've read many studies on many topics and discussions and my list is really just distilled advice from that exercise.  Also my job allows me to look up some of the pay-walled studies at my local University for free :). Some of my favorite studies are 

1) Midlife gene expressions identify modulators of aging through dietary interventions

 

2) Lessons from dietary studies in Adventists 

 

3) Metabolic syndrome lipid improvements with balanced diet 15/40/45 P:F:C

4) Ornish's cholesterol reduction on low fat diet

 

As for SAR, it's on the end of the list because you should do all the other stuff first.  Once you've done all the easy stuff, the only thing that's really left (if you want to go further) is to support aging research.  (either with funding or brain power!) It's kind of a shot in the dark, but given the progress in information technology and genetic science research I think it's likely that aging research will provide meaningful life extension in our lifetimes even if we don't reach escape velocity.  I figure I've got a good 50 years left to go.  If you look at the progress from 1964 (50 years ago) until now, you can see some big differences that show just how far these advances can take us in that time frame.  If people make a real effort to support research into the SENS program to repair some or all of the causes of age related damage, we can make everyone's health better for longer.   I think that will make a massive difference in the way people live and allow them to be more productive.  It becomes a virtuous circle if the gains made go on to spawn further advances.

 

I don't think looking at your own experience with aging (a single case study, and probably an informal one at that) is not enough evidence to make claims about the effectiveness of techniques, but thank you for giving some other studies to look at. :)



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Posted 01 August 2014 - 05:01 PM

 

Why would supporting aging research significantly decrease an individual's risk of death? Isn't a single individual's support too small to have a noticeable impact on one's chance of dying?

 

Yes, a single individual's support is really too small. But if you manage to combine it with more people, then it becomes signifficant. For example, you may be able to give for such a research support, lets say 10 dollars. This is nothing. But if 1000 other people like you give 10 dollars, they gather 10 000 dollars, which is enough for making some low budget research, that is relevent with the immortality. There are 4 000 000 000 people in the world. Even if 1% of them decide to support researches, that can make us immortal, this means 40 000 000 people. From them if 1% decides to give 10 dollars, it makes 400 000 x 10 = 4 000 000 dollars. With such a sum, a big and a relevant research can be made.


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Posted 01 August 2014 - 05:42 PM

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I don't think looking at your own experience with aging (a single case study, and probably an informal one at that) is not enough evidence to make claims about the effectiveness of techniques, but thank you for giving some other studies to look at. :)

 

 
Well I'm not an aging researcher in the formal sense and can't produce all the papers I would like to see out of thin air even if I was involved in research.  If you wait until all the info is in place to make a completely rational decision, you'll already have done immense damage to yourself and might possibly never actually take any action against aging.  So you take what you read here and in other forums and research, distill the information and take your best shot with the info you've got.  
 
Also I'm not alone in my approach to reducing the impact of aging.  The CR Society has a few thousand people who eat a diet with full nutrition and reduced calories.  Dr. Luigi Fontana has published several studies using the members of the CR Society as test subjects.  His results are that generally they are an exceptionally healthy bunch of people and are very unlikely to suffer from many of the diseases associated with aging.
This page shows some of the research being done at the Washington University.

The studies and research above show that CR + ON reduces the risk for cancer, diabetes, stroke and heart disease.  Other studies have shown that CR + ON is associated with reduced risk and/or progression of Alzheimer's.  And just to tie it back to your original query -- if you can avoid the leading causes of death such as heart disease, stroke and Alzheimer's and also avoid the leading cause of disability, diabetes, then you can postpone death for a while longer than someone who doesn't.  So I recommend the items on my list to avoid dying.


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 03:32 AM

Just live with a healthy lifestyle, and prevent dangerous jobs, it may help to lessen the danger in our lives. :)



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Posted 25 November 2014 - 02:18 AM

Just live with a healthy lifestyle, and prevent dangerous jobs, it may help to lessen the danger in our lives. :)

 

The hard part is determining what defines a healthy lifestyle. Do you know how to learn how to do this?



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Posted 11 December 2014 - 08:21 AM

It's difficult, but, to prevent dying you should motivate yourself to do it



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Posted 16 December 2015 - 07:35 PM

There's too many factors to study, even if you had a whole college working for you.
I have mixed a good basic understanding, from an age of 15 years, with intrest in the relevant areas, as and when I found the need. This need for knowledge has been a personal drive with study, everyone's body works under the same principles but everyone has different needs. To study a group of people is problematic, because of the many factors involved, thats where statistical analysis can be helpful.
The reasons for the lose of animation are few, if you want to play the blame game, with regards for individual organ failure, then that's your chosen path of study.
When the energy centres become weak, or broken and the body becomes unviable for the spirit, the spirit leaves. It has no choice, it's no mystery for some, but some people have not asked the right questions and so have not found the answers that would suit them in all honesty. You may as well ask," why would your big toe stop wiggling", there's much similarity to your threads title in my eyes. Harry Oldfield explains how you have to burn the piece of leaf you cut off the sample, before the phantom image apears in a kirlian photograph. Make of it as you will, you either accept something until you find better, or work out something yourself, but first I would recommend learning the principles of the Triviam to get you started. Every slave needs to start somewhere! No offence intended :)

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 08:33 PM

I miss a "Trolling" button for Multivitz posts.


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