Posted 27 February 2015 - 11:37 PM
Just wondering, they started out having a fairly priced resveratrol, 300 mgs a day for around 13.99 a month. That was about right for me (considering my overall regimen price) and now it seems they refuse to have any resveratrol products for under 30$ a month. Why? I need an explanation for why they are going in the elitist direction in terms of their prices? Thanks.
Also, if someone can recommend a fairly priced red wine extract, without knotweed, i'd appreciate that too.
Posted 01 March 2015 - 09:31 PM
For my second question I found a Doctors best red wine extract that contains some apparently patented 'Biovin' stuff and naturally has 5% resveratrol per pill. I just really need a low emodin alternative to Revgenetics, since Rev has, then doesn't have, then has, then doesn't have products, and they seem to be continuing a trend of having a higher monthly price you need to pay for their Resveratrol product. They use to have reasonably priced ones so people who are already on a fairly high priced regimen could include that too. But they seem to be going for the no less than 30$ a month price point. I would not be surprised if the guy makes it so nothing is available for less than 50$ a month soon. Elitist crap man.
Be consistent!
Posted 03 March 2015 - 10:13 PM
If you look on Paypal or Amazon you might find several, be careful though, they do not always specify purity.. And Megaresveratrol dot com is still in business
Would you know off the top of your head of a decent product with good purity I should search for on the website you provided?
Care to comment on this product?
https://megaresverat...veratrol-250mg/
Posted 05 March 2015 - 04:16 AM
They provide a 99% powder from China. Like most everyone else. Haven't looked at their web page recently. They were one of the first to supply >=98% resveratrol, the real thing. Anyone who wants can contact various Chinese traders, get a few kilos, test them. and repack and put it on the web. If they wash their hands when packaging, you won't get sick.
Seriously, megaresveratrol was one of the first, along with Anthony. They pretty much stuck with the low-cost business model. A Canadian in this group has recently bought from them, no complaints.
Posted 05 March 2015 - 08:15 PM
They provide a 99% powder from China. Like most everyone else. Haven't looked at their web page recently. They were one of the first to supply >=98% resveratrol, the real thing. Anyone who wants can contact various Chinese traders, get a few kilos, test them. and repack and put it on the web. If they wash their hands when packaging, you won't get sick.
Seriously, megaresveratrol was one of the first, along with Anthony. They pretty much stuck with the low-cost business model. A Canadian in this group has recently bought from them, no complaints.
I will need to see if they have a contact number so I can call and ask about the emodin thing. Because if it's knotweed derived it must be low in emodin. Otherwise GI symptoms are always a complaint from everybody.
Posted 05 March 2015 - 10:08 PM
Edited by Logic, 05 March 2015 - 10:09 PM.
Posted 06 March 2015 - 12:58 AM
Emodin is a potent laxative. You don't want much of it. It may cause duodenal ulcers with frequent use.
China is no longer producing resveratrol from knotweed in any quantity. Several pharmaceutical companies have bred yeast that produce it, which has lowered the cost so knotweed is not cost effective as a source. Ergo, no emodin. And at 99+ purity, not much of anything else either.
Posted 09 March 2015 - 05:45 PM
Yeah, I had to stop buying from Anthony a long time ago. He seems to be catering to the aging South Florida crowd more so than people in this community. Not that I blame him for doing so though, heh.
Hi Mike,
South Florida for Resveratrol prices? Have you seen the price of our X500?
It's 28.99 for a single purchase and 23.99 for autoship.
It is 99% pure resveratrol
Now lets compare shall we?
From Amazon:
Resveratrol Extra Strength - 1200 mg per serving - http://goo.gl/xETFYg- $19.88
Pros: Price
Cons: It's a blend and who knows what the actual amount of resveratrol is in that product.
Now Resveratrol - 200 mg - 120 capsules - http://goo.gl/jUertT- only $25.99
Pros: Price
Cons: It uses 50% purity resveratrol
ReserveAge Resveratrol - 500 mg - 60 capsules - http://goo.gl/lA6SXn- only $56.99
Pros: ????
Cons: It's a blend again, this time they guarantee 500 mg but what about purity?
Not doing good so far.... OOOooohhh here is one!
Dr's Best - 100 mg - 60 capsules - http://goo.gl/cLcLZ3- only $12.99 !!!
Pros: Price .. Lol! Really?
Cons: No purity stated on the bottle. Likely its a low purity...
Hmmm.... lets try GNC!
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Nope... not even close...
Prices for 500 mg of pure resveratrol are pretty darn competitive for 99% resveratrol.
Posted 09 March 2015 - 06:09 PM
The Fountain,
The 300mg Resveratrol product called the R300 was a 50% purity resveratrol.
Do you want that product to come back?
No, there was another product for about 20$ you removed also which had a 99% purity. What's going on here?
Posted 09 March 2015 - 06:13 PM
The Doctors best you posted is NOT the one I purchased Anthony. I purchased the red wine extract with Biovin for 8$ and free shipping. At least I am getting a small amount of resveratrol from that and a decent anti-oxidant punch.
Posted 09 March 2015 - 06:17 PM
Anthony, try to be sensitive to my argument here. It seems to me that your prices keep going up for a monthly supply. That is undoubtedly the trend. Now for someone who already spends a lot on supplements that seems like an extra expenditure. If they only buy your resveratrol they are good to go, but that's not how it generally works in the longevity community. Your prices are becoming prohibitive for people who are already on a costly regimen. Even if you had a product for like 19.99 a month with combined shipping if multiples are purchased, that would be better than the 30$ a month you're asking.
Posted 09 March 2015 - 06:46 PM
Yeah, I had to stop buying from Anthony a long time ago. He seems to be catering to the aging South Florida crowd more so than people in this community. Not that I blame him for doing so though, heh.
Hi Mike,
South Florida for Resveratrol prices? Have you seen the price of our X500?
It's 28.99 for a single purchase and 23.99 for autoship.
It is 99% pure resveratrol
Now lets compare shall we?
From Amazon:
Resveratrol Extra Strength - 1200 mg per serving - http://goo.gl/xETFYg- $19.88
Pros: Price
Cons: It's a blend and who knows what the actual amount of resveratrol is in that product.
Now Resveratrol - 200 mg - 120 capsules - http://goo.gl/jUertT- only $25.99
Pros: Price
Cons: It uses 50% purity resveratrol
ReserveAge Resveratrol - 500 mg - 60 capsules - http://goo.gl/lA6SXn- only $56.99
Pros: ????
Cons: It's a blend again, this time they guarantee 500 mg but what about purity?
Not doing good so far.... OOOooohhh here is one!
Dr's Best - 100 mg - 60 capsules - http://goo.gl/cLcLZ3- only $12.99 !!!
Pros: Price .. Lol! Really?
Cons: No purity stated on the bottle. Likely its a low purity...
Hmmm.... lets try GNC!
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Nope... not even close...
Prices for 500 mg of pure resveratrol are pretty darn competitive for 99% resveratrol.
Cool story about your other products, but it isn't relevant to my comment.
A 100 gram quantity of product I was purchasing for around $225 is now $300, that would be a 33% price increase since I stopped doing business with you.
No need to get defensive.
Posted 10 March 2015 - 04:11 PM
Mikeinnaples and TheFountain,
I am getting defensive simply because:
1- TheFountain is quoting a price we had years ago for a product that was 50% pure. That is comparing apples to oranges. If he wants a 50% pure product, then he should let me know.
2- TheFountain says he buys a Resveratrol 5% product for $8 with free shipping. Wow really? That would make me a lot of money and he would basically get what I consider dirt in a bottle when it comes to the resveratrol content.
3- Maxwatts's comment on "business men go where the money" also stinks. I go where quality is, and I believe Maxwatt can personally attest to that... or have you forgotten that I lab test everything? 
4- Mikeinnaples we have customers who are getting $13, $15 and $18 resveratrol still because they signed up for autoship when our August sale rolled around, many even have free shipping.
You want an awesome price?
Sign up for our newsletter (No not the LongeCity newsletter The RevGenetics Newsletter) and when we have a crazy sale, sign up for our autoship to keep the same prices.
Just this Sunday we had a 24 hour sale for hundreds of randomly selected newsletter folks to get the MetaCurcumin at 50% off with a special code, last month we had X500 and PolyMAX on sale with a special code, heck we had an awesome Nitro250 sale back in December as well. It isn't my fault that you choose not to take advantage of sales. Even coupon cutters don't get emails sent to them to get something they want at an exceptional price, but they don't care, they go and cut out coupons nonetheless.
TheFountain starts this thread and call RevGenetics Prices Elitist? Look, if you want cheap vitamins go to www.VitaSpin.com our sister website with super cheap stuff. But it won't have resveratrol at this time. If you guys want super cheap 50% or less resveratrol that beats everyone's pants off, I will do it and put it on VitaSpin... but I need for you guys to help me market it. Why? Because it is the Marketing dollars that increases prices on all our products.
The price of doing business and giving money to longevity projects:
The fact is that there is a huge amount of Noise for "Resveratrol" and everyone and their mother is selling it. There is no reason for me to consider a ridiculously priced resveratrol if we can't make any money on it because all profits go to marketing. We don't live in a communist or socialist society where products are made because someone thought it was a "good idea" and expenses are paid for by the society to fund the product. No, we obviously live in a Capitalist society with the forces of supply and demand. Then we use part of the profits to research new products, provide material to researchers, buy equipment for educational institutions (Like the Real Time PCR we just gave out this past December) that can help us do research on non-patentable molecules, and help us throw some money to methuselah, a family in medical need on GoFundME or other life extension projects and studies.
In fact, other than LEF, I don't see many companies like RevGenetics re-investing their supplement profits to do more research or help groups like LongeCity or others, heck even promoting C60 websites to our customers that don't provide us any profit at all, just because we believe in the cause.
It amazes me that there are scientists that can't get their longevity projects up and running FOR YEARS because of funding (Just in the last 2-3 days on the GRG I hear some moaning about this), and then I hear in this forum how prices are king? I am sorry, but if you guys really are for longevity then you need to consider quality of the product or at least the companies that give something back... not just cheap ass products.
I am afraid folks in this forum are now just looking for a handout. Well, if you don't mind me sacrificing quality... then I can certainly help you all out. Sometimes quality is expensive... which reminds me of the RevGenetics Vimmortal experiment we had here in the past.
RevGenetics makes quality world class products, but like the old Vimmortal experiment we had with Longecity members, the methods and ingredients for world class products many times are priced too high for many of you to consider. While this appears to strictly be an issue of price to many here, it is really an issue of quality for me as my family and I take the products we make ourselves.
Heck Maxwatt mentioned MegaResveratrol right? They make a good product, but the micronization is not up to RevGenetics standards. In 2012 we tested the resveratrol that came to us because "a certain Chinese company I will not name", said that they provided the micronized resveratrol to MegaResveratrol. We asked them for a sample, and it failed our basic tests even though their COA (lab analysis) clearly stated it was micronized. We then challenged the company to get the particle size down to our requirements, and they simply failed. So far we have had two chinese companies failing to meet our standards of micronization, they simply can't beat the Micronization we do here in the Good ol' USA.
I have attached that particle size test to this post.
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At this point, I don't care if they use the Chinese company or not, we have worked with them in the past and I find the owner to be fair, and I would help him out of a jam any time he asked me to. If you guys like his stuff, then please continue to purchase it. I have no problems with Mega at all, and I personally consider him a friend in the industry. I would like to see him nail our low micronized particle size, and I think one day he will.
Getting back to the question on price vs quality:
If you guys don't want quality, and want a 50% product (or heck even a 5% resveratrol product for $8 and free shipping... Lol!) then yes, I can certainly do that.
It will guarantee my profits will go sky high with a product I would never take myself... but hey, it's all about supply and demand right? If you guys can help me market it, then great... we might just have the product you are going to be happy with.
So what say you TheFountain and Mike?
If I make the a ridiculously low priced resveratrol product, will you guys help me market it?
Cheers
A
Edited by Anthony_Loera, 10 March 2015 - 04:57 PM.
Posted 10 March 2015 - 07:45 PM
Not sure why you included me in that long drawn out response, but it is getting tiresome.
If you guys don't want quality, and want a 50% product (or heck even a 5% resveratrol product for $8 and free shipping... Lol!) then yes, I can certainly do that.
Not sure why you directed this at me as it is absolutely not relevant to anything I had to say.
If I make the a ridiculously low priced resveratrol product, will you guys help me market it?
Again, not sure why you directed this at me as it is absolutely not relevant to anything I had to say.
Look, as I said before, I get you feel the need to defend yourself, but the truth of the matter is that I stopped when you raised the price of the product I ordered by 33% and forced people to do what I felt was a bogus autoship program to receive any meaningful discount. I get the need to increase price if your cost goes up, I mean you need to make money and all (though I am on the fence if the cost of quality resveratrol production actually went up, I have read otherwise). If it had been a moderate price increase and I didnt have to screw around with autoshipping bullshit, you would still have me as a customer. Not sure what there really is to argue about it. Also, I am not attacking you here. I very clearly said I get why you did it.....
Posted 11 March 2015 - 12:11 AM
Mike,
"but the truth of the matter is that I stopped when you raised the price of the product I ordered by 33% and forced people to do what I felt was a bogus autoship program to receive any meaningful discount."
My response:
It is not a bogus autoship program. We deal with marketing costs that chip away at profits, and when customers like you get on an "Autoship" program we save money and provide a discount in turn to you. It really is that simple. We have done the "Autoship" discounts from the beginning and many people have taken advantage of them. It is certainly not "bogus" to those saving money every month. Heck they can call us up and reschedule their shipments, switch them to every 2 months or more, have us ship them to their hotel room when they travel, etc.
In the end the "Autoship" program is cheaper for many and is very convenient.
I understand that you feel "Jipped" somehow because you refuse the Autoship program and can't get the same price as those who made the commitment to try the autoship program. That is fine, and it is your decision. For the customers who are on Autoship, I will continue to offer them deals, lower pricing, and unique specials.
I wouldn't call these folks "Elitists" either, I would call them bargain hunters.
Posted 11 March 2015 - 04:35 AM
Mikeinnaples and TheFountain,
I am getting defensive simply because:
1- TheFountain is quoting a price we had years ago for a product that was 50% pure. That is comparing apples to oranges. If he wants a 50% pure product, then he should let me know.
2- TheFountain says he buys a Resveratrol 5% product for $8 with free shipping. Wow really? That would make me a lot of money and he would basically get what I consider dirt in a bottle when it comes to the resveratrol content.
3- Maxwatts's comment on "business men go where the money" also stinks. I go where quality is, and I believe Maxwatt can personally attest to that... or have you forgotten that I lab test everything?
4- Mikeinnaples we have customers who are getting $13, $15 and $18 resveratrol still because they signed up for autoship when our August sale rolled around, many even have free shipping.
You want an awesome price?
Sign up for our newsletter (No not the LongeCity newsletter The RevGenetics Newsletter) and when we have a crazy sale, sign up for our autoship to keep the same prices.
Just this Sunday we had a 24 hour sale for hundreds of randomly selected newsletter folks to get the MetaCurcumin at 50% off with a special code, last month we had X500 and PolyMAX on sale with a special code, heck we had an awesome Nitro250 sale back in December as well. It isn't my fault that you choose not to take advantage of sales. Even coupon cutters don't get emails sent to them to get something they want at an exceptional price, but they don't care, they go and cut out coupons nonetheless.
TheFountain starts this thread and call RevGenetics Prices Elitist? Look, if you want cheap vitamins go to www.VitaSpin.com our sister website with super cheap stuff. But it won't have resveratrol at this time. If you guys want super cheap 50% or less resveratrol that beats everyone's pants off, I will do it and put it on VitaSpin... but I need for you guys to help me market it. Why? Because it is the Marketing dollars that increases prices on all our products.
The price of doing business and giving money to longevity projects:
The fact is that there is a huge amount of Noise for "Resveratrol" and everyone and their mother is selling it. There is no reason for me to consider a ridiculously priced resveratrol if we can't make any money on it because all profits go to marketing. We don't live in a communist or socialist society where products are made because someone thought it was a "good idea" and expenses are paid for by the society to fund the product. No, we obviously live in a Capitalist society with the forces of supply and demand. Then we use part of the profits to research new products, provide material to researchers, buy equipment for educational institutions (Like the Real Time PCR we just gave out this past December) that can help us do research on non-patentable molecules, and help us throw some money to methuselah, a family in medical need on GoFundME or other life extension projects and studies.
In fact, other than LEF, I don't see many companies like RevGenetics re-investing their supplement profits to do more research or help groups like LongeCity or others, heck even promoting C60 websites to our customers that don't provide us any profit at all, just because we believe in the cause.
It amazes me that there are scientists that can't get their longevity projects up and running FOR YEARS because of funding (Just in the last 2-3 days on the GRG I hear some moaning about this), and then I hear in this forum how prices are king? I am sorry, but if you guys really are for longevity then you need to consider quality of the product or at least the companies that give something back... not just cheap ass products.
I am afraid folks in this forum are now just looking for a handout. Well, if you don't mind me sacrificing quality... then I can certainly help you all out. Sometimes quality is expensive... which reminds me of the RevGenetics Vimmortal experiment we had here in the past.
RevGenetics makes quality world class products, but like the old Vimmortal experiment we had with Longecity members, the methods and ingredients for world class products many times are priced too high for many of you to consider. While this appears to strictly be an issue of price to many here, it is really an issue of quality for me as my family and I take the products we make ourselves.
Heck Maxwatt mentioned MegaResveratrol right? They make a good product, but the micronization is not up to RevGenetics standards. In 2012 we tested the resveratrol that came to us because "a certain Chinese company I will not name", said that they provided the micronized resveratrol to MegaResveratrol. We asked them for a sample, and it failed our basic tests even though their COA (lab analysis) clearly stated it was micronized. We then challenged the company to get the particle size down to our requirements, and they simply failed. So far we have had two chinese companies failing to meet our standards of micronization, they simply can't beat the Micronization we do here in the Good ol' USA.
I have attached that particle size test to this post.
At this point, I don't care if they use the Chinese company or not, we have worked with them in the past and I find the owner to be fair, and I would help him out of a jam any time he asked me to. If you guys like his stuff, then please continue to purchase it. I have no problems with Mega at all, and I personally consider him a friend in the industry. I would like to see him nail our low micronized particle size, and I think one day he will.
Getting back to the question on price vs quality:
If you guys don't want quality, and want a 50% product (or heck even a 5% resveratrol product for $8 and free shipping... Lol!) then yes, I can certainly do that.
It will guarantee my profits will go sky high with a product I would never take myself... but hey, it's all about supply and demand right? If you guys can help me market it, then great... we might just have the product you are going to be happy with.
So what say you TheFountain and Mike?
If I make the a ridiculously low priced resveratrol product, will you guys help me market it?
Cheers
A
I think you are mistaking what we are saying. We do not want 50% purity products at low cost, we want 99% products at a cost that is not prohibitive. How much would the x500 be if it were autoshipped and caught during a sale? The low price you quoted for other's earlier? If that can be guaranteed you'd have me at hello, but I do not see where that is being openly advertised.
Edited by TheFountain, 11 March 2015 - 04:35 AM.
Posted 11 March 2015 - 04:28 PM
It is not a bogus autoship program.
That is a matter of opinion Anthony, I am more than entitled to mine.
I buy supplements from businesses that give me discounts for being a loyal customer, you are the only business I have dealt with personally that operates like this. I feel like it is more hassle than what it is worth to have something I may or may not need month to month delivered to my doorstep and automatically deducted from my bank account. If I don't need it that month, not only will I have to waste my time communicating that to you, but I will have to trust that you won't deliver the product anyways and charge me for it. To me, that is the epitomy of bullshit when I all want to do as a consumer is click a couple of buttons when I need something and have it arrive in a few days. Between that and your 33% price increase, it was too much for me to continue doing business with you.
You can argue with me all you want about *my* opinion, but to me it is bogus and it is, beyond a shadow of a doubt, the exact reasons why you lost my business.
Posted 11 March 2015 - 04:33 PM
Hi TheFountain,
Currently, the X500 is at $23.99 on Autoship and discounted to $20.99 a bottle if you purchase a 4 pack.
On our sales this is sometimes reduced further, and if you happen to be a Private Member (Either through a purchase or by random giveaways we sometimes provide) you get an extra 15% off the price with our private member discount code 15POFFRG.
Right now we don't have a sale, but here is how much a "Private Member" would get the product at:
For Private Members, the $23.99 Autoship becomes... $20.39 as shown below in this morning's screenshot:
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of course... if you select the 4 pack, it looks much better, as at $71.37 for 4 bottles, comes out to 17.84 a bottle which is a pretty good price for when they are technically "Not on Sale":
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When we actually have a sale, I believe this price drops down a bit more.
I hope this helps.
Anthony
Edited by Anthony_Loera, 11 March 2015 - 04:38 PM.
Posted 11 March 2015 - 05:57 PM
Posted 11 March 2015 - 09:30 PM
Resveratrol seems so, like, five years ago hullabaloo. If it did anything, we'd likely know it by now. Millions take it -- who's getting younger? No one. Save your $17.84 Autoship Private Member bottle and put ur money into savings for when real rejuvination becomes brighter on the horizon. Same goes for NR & Mitoq and all the rest of this shit. It's like a carnival.
To argue against your position, millions are not taking the highest quality stuff, millions are taking low quality 50% stuff with no testing done on it. When was the last time you skimmed the resveratrol forum? Tons of clinical research confirms it does indeed do something.
Posted 10 June 2015 - 05:34 PM
Resveratrol seems so, like, five years ago hullabaloo. If it did anything, we'd likely know it by now. Millions take it -- who's getting younger? No one. Save your $17.84 Autoship Private Member bottle and put ur money into savings for when real rejuvination becomes brighter on the horizon. Same goes for NR & Mitoq and all the rest of this shit. It's like a carnival.
What are proven/working supps you take, if any, and why?
Serious question.
Posted 10 June 2015 - 11:06 PM
Posted 11 June 2015 - 12:43 AM
Well, I'm a vegan (for ethical reasons not health reasons) and on calorie restriction (although I have doubts CR works in people) and so I do the cronometer thing and try to stay with RDA. I take B12, vitamin D, and zinc sometimes to meet shortfalls from diet.What are proven/working supps you take, if any, and why?
Resveratrol seems so, like, five years ago hullabaloo. If it did anything, we'd likely know it by now. Millions take it -- who's getting younger? No one. Save your $17.84 Autoship Private Member bottle and put ur money into savings for when real rejuvination becomes brighter on the horizon. Same goes for NR & Mitoq and all the rest of this shit. It's like a carnival.
Serious question.
Edited by sthira, 11 June 2015 - 12:48 AM.
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