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#1 Samuel80

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Posted 27 April 2016 - 05:30 AM


I have been having some health problems for quite a few years now. Fatigue, memory loss, weakness, depression, and frequent urination. I have recently had pacemaker surgery,  which had helped with fitness. I could only manage a 5 min run before, now im up to 20 min in 5 weeks. 

My lab tests for testosterone over the past 6 months have been low

 

Range 8.3-29

6.9 nmol/L

7.3 nmol/L

11  nmol/L

 

My doctor stated that my sperm production would lower if I started testosterone replacement. So I decided not to go ahead with it as we want more kids. 

I am considering taking clomid. But before I do I was considering using some supplements to see if it helps. I have ordered the following supps

 

Ginger extract

ZMA

Pregnenolone

DAA Aspartic Acid

Tribulus Terrestris

 

Hopefully I wont have to go down the replacement road

 

 

 



#2 aconita

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 12:57 AM

Unfortunately there is not much about increasing testosterone by way of supplements, unless you do believe what vendors tell you, of course.

 

Lets make clear an important and too often ignored point: it is not the same to rise testosterone levels beyond physiological levels (what athletes want, for example) and rise testosterone to normal levels if for some reason it is too low.

 

While the former it is impossible with supplements (if it was possible don't worry we already knew and steroid would be a thing of the past) the latter might be possible.

 

Go for fresh ginger (about 10g/day in an infusion) instead of an extract.

 

Go for zinc 30mg/day and magnesium as much as you can tolerate (much depends in which form it is, probably bisglycinate is best) instead of crappy ridiculously low dosage/high price/low quality ZMA.

 

Tribulus and DAA are very unlikely to do much more than depleting your wallet.

 

Pregnenolone might lead to more issues than benefits.

 

Onions have been proved to rise testosterone in low testosterone individuals.

 

Long Jack probably works but good quality is quite expensive and there are many fakes on the market.

 

Vitamin D3 (best coupled with K2) up to 5000IU/day.

 

Sting nettle root infusion (about 5g/day).

 

Chamomile.

 

Grapeseeds extract.

 

But more important than supplements are lifestyle changes:

 

A relatively high fat diet provides cholesterol which ensures plenty raw material for TRT production.

 

WEIGHT TRAINING.

 

Avoid long low intensity endurance training (jogging and such), high intensity interval training is a much better choice (you might give Tabata protocols a try).

 

Sleep at least 8-9 hours.

 

Avoid stress at all cost.

 

Meditation (in order to lower stress).

 

Lots of sex.

 

Avoid carbs more than once a day, best immediately after training.

 

Don't snack between meals.

 

Drink only water (no sodas etc...).

 

No more than 1 or 2 glasses of wine a day.

 

Aim to stay (or reach) below 15% body fat.

 

Well...the list is longer than that but lets start to fix some of the above...and I am sure there is plenty to work on already!   

 

Oh,...and lets make it clear: if you are not willing to make changes in your lifestyle don't expect changes to happen!

 

Unlikely someone wants you to believe there are no magic fix all pills, especially without an high price to pay (not speaking about money here).

 

 


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#3 Heisok

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 05:45 PM

Samuel80,

 

I am not an expert. I think a lot of the lifestyle changes that aconita is suggesting are an excellent conservative path. I would try the most conservative suggestions first. Diet, sleep, continue exercising, stress reduction and others.

 

You might want to talk to your Cardiologist before commencing  any H.I.I.T. high intensity interval training, and take it very carefully. There might be limits to what the Cardiologist wants for your maximum exercising heart rate. High intensity would be relative for you, and simply using age adjusted formula for maximum rates might be dangerously higher than safe.   Real Tabata training is not something I would consider if I had any coronary issues whatsoever. I do some high intensity interval training on a Versa Climber and doubt that I would go as far as Tabata anyway.

 

In what order over the last 6 months were the lab results? I hope that they are oldest to most recent. If so, your trend is already looking great even if the level is still low. If so, patience might be warranted. There might be other hormone related tests which would give important information related to what is happening to the Testosterone.

 



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#4 Keizo

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 09:37 AM

You can freeze sperm for a very long time. It might be cheaper than the supplements.


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