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"Methylene blue is the same as lllt" - is this true ?

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#1 Geeo Peeo

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Posted 16 June 2016 - 06:09 PM


are the claims made by this person true or not ?

 

http://immortalhair....he-same-as-lllt

 

 

 

 

http://journal.front...2015.00179/full

"While low-dose methylene blue and low-level near-infrared light may produce different pleiotropic cellular effects, both interventions cause a similar up-regulation of mitochondrial respiration with similar benefits to protect nerve cells against degeneration."

" If you used MB instead of the laser that would only be $5 additional dollars per year " - lostfalco

" I do know that MB enhances mitochondrial function far more powerfully than CoQ10. "

" You don't need CoQ10 really anyway if your taking MB" (methylene blue)

http://forum.bulletp...ge-2#entry36162

avocado, cheese, salami and red wines such as Chianti are also off the menu
http://www.telegraph...nd-rumours.html

https://en.wikipedia...otonin_syndrome

http://www.longecity...mao-inhibition/

“As far as 2) - if we assume that one of the main effects of red light is getting NO dissociated from cytochrome C and thus improving metabolism then SolBan would have similar effects. Aspirin, niacinamide and caffeine have all been shown to reduce plasma (and sometimes tissue) NO. So, on that count they act like red light. But they have other pro-metabolic effects including uncoupling of respiration, which I don't think red light does on its own.” – from haidut

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/11427637
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/17335382

http://www.longecity...riences/page-10 - mentions bald
list of mitochondria based supplements

http://www.longecity...in-for-pennies/

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/23806754
Another VERY cheap enhancement option related to lllt is methylene blue. They discuss the relationship between MB and lllt in this article MB is only $5 for an entire year!

http://www.longecity...-10#entry482941



#2 lostfalco

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Posted 16 June 2016 - 06:24 PM

Hey Geeo, they are similar but not identical. 

 

The similarity comes from the the fact that they both affect the electron transport chain on the inner membrane of mitochondria but they do this in different ways. 

 

Here's the ETC. https://figures.boun...e-07-04-01.jpeg

 

High quality methylene blue wasn't readily available back in 2013 (when the quote you cited from me was made). I would not recommend using the inexpensive fish tank cleaners because we have no idea whether they contain contaminants or not. 

 

I'd recommend trying something like Ceretropic's methylene blue if you're interested in giving it a go. =) http://www.ceretropi...ne-blue-powder/

 

It's actually pretty affordable. 

 

LLLT is also extremely affordable if you're interested in that as well.  https://www.amazon.c...ds=850nm led 48

 

 


Edited by lostfalco, 16 June 2016 - 06:27 PM.


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Posted 16 June 2016 - 08:12 PM

seems legit, see this study: http://www.ncbi.nlm....les/PMC4428125/

and ive heard really good things about MB, even ultra-low dose

#4 Geeo Peeo

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Posted 16 June 2016 - 09:59 PM

Would dissolving the powder in a liquid b supplement be a good way to take it ?



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Posted 17 June 2016 - 01:03 AM

uh the url to methylene blue states its out of stock :s






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