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[adoado]

Guys, i am 48 years old, getting supplements since the last 10 years- 5 years heavily,

 

This is my 2 cents, my daddys grandfather lived 110 years, he only consumed wheat and lamb meat, sometimes, yoghurt maybe at most, but now when i ask people who remembers him, they only reply he did not care about anything, he was a 0-zero stress person, my grandfather died in gallipoli war, very young age, and my father died at 67 of liver cancer. because he drank whatever he could find and smoke, he died of liver cancer, to summarize, he was trying to reduce the stress of life using chemicals, alcohol and tobacco, which did not help, if  you can not raise internal stress inhibiting mechanisms it is not possible to lead a long life,

 

[William Sterog]

Why to live if you don't care about anything?

I'm asking seriously. I'm the first one interested in life extension, supplements, exercise, fasting, meditation... But, in the end, what is moving us? Just a reluctance to die? The thought that we are special and should be preserved? Without a meaningful existence, all our efforts are pointless, ridiculous.

While I'm still alive, I have the chance to find a meaning, to get involved, to care about anything. That's maybe why I still going on. I would prefer to exist an instant with the sensation to be doing anything significant than an eternity of nothing.

[adoado]

My bad, sorry English is not my native tongue, maybe i could not express myself clearly, when i said he did not care about anything, i wanted to remark his approach for problem handling, he just did not think that daily problems he encountered are of much importance. he just turned away his head and pretended he did not notice anything, 

 

Why to live if you don't care about anything?

I'm asking seriously. I'm the first one interested in life extension, supplements, exercise, fasting, meditation... But, in the end, what is moving us? Just a reluctance to die? The thought that we are special and should be preserved? Without a meaningful existence, all our efforts are pointless, ridiculous.

While I'm still alive, I have the chance to find a meaning, to get involved, to care about anything. That's maybe why I still going on. I would prefer to exist an instant with the sensation to be doing anything significant than an eternity of nothing.

 

[aconita]

Avoiding stress, especially being chronically stressed. is definitely key to longevity, so far the only proven factor common to all extraordinary long living populations.

 

Everything else is just speculation.

[Forever21]

Calorie Restriction

then your list...

[MightyMouse]

Calorie Restriction

then your list...

 

Excellent genes

Calorie Restriction

then your list...

[aconita]

I am sorry but when it comes to real human evidence only low stress and fulfilling relationships (which are part of low stress anyway) are common points in exceptional long living populations.

 

Excellent genes and calorie restrictions are only speculations, whom doesn't agree is invited to show human evidence.

 

Excellent genes might be anecdotal for one ore few individuals, I am talking about populations, not single individuals. 

[aconita]

My dear, we all dislike it, me as the first one....but reality is not always as we wish.

[Forever21]

I am sorry but when it comes to real human evidence only low stress and fulfilling relationships (which are part of low stress anyway) are common points in exceptional long living populations.

 

Excellent genes and calorie restrictions are only speculations, whom doesn't agree is invited to show human evidence.

 

Excellent genes might be anecdotal for one ore few individuals, I am talking about populations, not single individuals. 

 

 

I think you are referring to living long within the normal limitation. (70-90 years old) If so, then yes, your anti-stress workouts and pilates and Tinder can help.

 

But we're talking about living long beyond the normal limitation (120 years old) In that case, not even Maharishi Yogi (died 90 years old who was the Pope of stress-free living and beloved by millions) couldn't live long.

 

Only Calorie Restriction extends lifespan.

[aconita]

I am referring to far above average ultracentenarians populations like those of Sardinia or Japan, just to name a couple, and I doubt very much they do practice Pilates or know anything about Tinder.

 

Maharishi Yogi birth date is controversial and ranges from 1911 to 1918 leaving a possibility for 97 years as lifespan which anyway isn't too bad even if it was just 90 since India is one of the country with the lowest expectancy of becoming centenarian in the world.

 

https://en.wikipedia...iki/Centenarian

 

Anyway I find this kind of reasoning misleading since we are talking about probabilities (percentages), not guarantees.  

 

Normal limitation 70-90, can you please provide some reference to this statement?

 

It doesn't occur to me that such limit has been established, research and practice seems to point to the 125 range which might in facts be more appropriate even if nobody possibly knows exactly.

 

Since very few individuals come even close to their biological limitation (71,5 world average life expectancy, slightly above 80 for the longest life expectancy countries) I would consider raising those averages as a more realistic goal, leaving the overcoming of.the biological limits to the research since it is highly unlikely that you nor me will be able to find a way around it any soon.

 

Please provide evidence that calories restriction extend human life expectancy, I am here waiting in trepidation.

[annetsang]

I would realy like to not care but everytime it comes to the case i cannot just turn away. =\

[SearchHorizon]

We are just making educated guesses as to why we age, and addressing possible causes. Since we don't know the actual reason why we age, the odds of successfully extending our lifespan doesn't seem very good. Nonetheless, I am all for experimenting and investigating ways to extend our health span and lifespan - otherwise, I wouldn't be posting here.