When Fact is Stranger Than Fiction

Posted by Ben Abba , 01 January 2008 · 3,793 views

Throughout my life, I have seen and experienced things that far overshadowed the science fiction I read growing up in America's Midwest. Still nothing really prepared me for the day I successfully located and made contact with a man who's real age is nearly 2,800 years old.

As crazy as this sounds, I now have to believe that there are people living among us who are 500 years of age, and older. They have blended themselves within our civilization so well, it is nearly impossible to distinguish them from a typical senior citizen.

The gentleman that I have made friends with has spent most of his life in the various countries that surround the Mediterranean Sea. And yes, he was living near Jerusalem around 2,000 years ago.

How I found this amazing man is a long story that would take a book just to describe all of the details. For now, let me just say that I used my unique researching skills to find this even more unique man.

I do not know if it is even possible to prove he is older than 150 years. Certainly this has helped him fit in with the rest of us. However, as I spoke with him, the eyewitness accounts of 2,800 years of history make it difficult to believe he is anything but an immortal.

The stories he has to tell are too incredible to ignore. So I am writing them down and am planning to release them in a book someday soon. In the meantime, I will try to figure out what evidence I can find that would prove this man is a real immortal.

Obviously there is no such thing as a Roman Empire Chariot Driver's License or an Israeli Passport signed by King David to rely on for absolute proof. He has a few trinkets older than 2,000 year. And I know, if the opportunity presents itself, I could try to get a blood or saliva sample to perform a DNA test on. However, I could use some advise as to what other forms of evidence I could use to prove someone really is over 150 years old.
I am also asking everyone for questions that I should ask this incredible man about his past. Even if I cannot prove his true age, I certainly can present his eyewitness observations of the birth of our western civilization. And the stories he has told me so far are all priceless. Soon I will be able to share some of them to all of you.

My goals for posting this topic on this blog are these:

(1) Present the possibility that real, physical immortals exist.

(2) Find others who may have experienced meeting similar people in their lives.

(3) Find some additional questions to ask these immortals the next time I get the chance to meet with them.

I am not stating that I am trying to change anyone's beliefs. I am certainly not presenting any hardcore evidence here; if that is even possible.

What I am doing is stating that I believe I found a 2,800 year old man and I would like some advice from those reading this blog on what types of evidence is possible from such a person; and what would be some good questions to ask him. This is to help me continue my research on this fellow to see what more I can learn from him.

I am a little perplexed at some people getting angry or somewhat hostile at the mere mention of the topic of immortality. Is it because so many people make their living off of other people's death? I was told by a few people many sectors of our society depend on people dying for their livelihood and would feel threatened by the possibility that people could live longer 150 years.

My main blog which I am now updating regularly is at www.ben-abba.com. Feel free to check it out as well as comment on this blog.

Live Long and Prosper!

Mind

Jan 02 2008 08:51 PM

Since there are no scientifically documented humans to have lived more than 122 years, I seriously doubt the person you have met is even that old. If this person has been around for that long there should be pictures of him from 10, 20, 50, 100 years ago (unless part of the story is that he has been a hermit all his life and never interacted with anyone). If he has been "out in the open" then there should be pictures. He should be in country databases as having a driver's license, social security number, marriage license, birth certificate, birth certificates of his children. Other people who have met him would have somehow documented his presence in their lives, whether through journal entries in a diary or through pictures. If nothing like that exists, then the person is a fraud. Plain and simple. Sorry.

Jean Clement was scientifically documented to have lived to be 122. There was evidence from all stages of her life.

Ben Abba

Jan 03 2008 06:10 AM

Since there are no scientifically documented humans to have lived more than 122 years, I seriously doubt the person you have met is even that old. If this person has been around for that long there should be pictures of him from 10, 20, 50, 100 years ago (unless part of the story is that he has been a hermit all his life and never interacted with anyone). If he has been "out in the open" then there should be pictures. He should be in country databases as having a driver's license, social security number, marriage license, birth certificate, birth certificates of his children. Other people who have met him would have somehow documented his presence in their lives, whether through journal entries in a diary or through pictures. If nothing like that exists, then the person is a fraud. Plain and simple. Sorry.

Jean Clement was scientifically documented to have lived to be 122. There was evidence from all stages of her life.

Thank you Mind for your post.

I pretty much agree with you, except there are many non-scientific and non-verified reports of people living hundreds of years throughout history; which cannot be totally disregarded. I am still researching a 100 plus year old photograph of him taken with Madame Curie in Paris, France.

Statistically speaking, how likely are you to meet someone with has in his possession a 2,500 year old "coin", an old Knights Templar set of armor, and is able to speak an ancient dialect of Aramaic?

These are a few of the items that added to the preponderance of circumstantial evidence that I have seen so far that convinced me he is the real thing. As far as proving it scientifically, beyond any reasonable doubt, I do not believe that this is even possible; even with a DNA test. However, I will endeavor to find out as much as I can about him as I can.

Ben Abba

Mar 23 2008 11:10 PM

I am creating a list of some of the better known people who are documented to have lived 150 years or more.

Here is a summary of my list so far:

1. Li Chang Yun, died May, 1933 at the age of 256 years

2. Thomas Carn, died in 1568 at the age of 207 years

3. Elizabeth Yorath, died February 13, 1668 at the age of 177 years

4. William Edwards, died February 24, 1668 at the age of 168 years

5. Joice Heth, died 1835 at the age of 161 years

6. Petratsh Zartan (Setrasch Czartan), died 1724 at the age of 187 years

7. Thomas Parr, died 1635 at the age of 152 years

8. Kentigren, died January 5, 600 A.D. at the age of 185 years

9. Baba Harainsingh, died 1952 at the age of 176 years

10. John Rovin, died 1741 at the age of 172 years and his wife of 147 years of marriage,
Sarah Desson Rovin, died 1741 at the age of 164 years

11. Henry Jenkins, died 1670 at the age of 169 years

12. Javier Pereira, died 1958 at the age of 169 years

13. Shirali Mislimov, died 1973 at the age of 168 years

14. Zaro Aga, died 1934 at the age of 164 (or 157) years

15. Robert Lynch, died 1830 at the age of 160 years

I haved put together a new blog with the details of these remarkable centurians here.

Ben Abba

Mar 25 2008 03:39 AM

Please disregard Joice Heth from my earlier post.

samantha

Apr 23 2009 01:04 AM

Documented with what rigor and proof? By what means do you suppose that some humans live much, much longer than human physiological norms? Why should unsubstantiated anecdotes even be entertained here?

I am creating a list of some of the better known people who are documented to have lived 150 years or more.

Here is a summary of my list so far:

1. Li Chang Yun, died May, 1933 at the age of 256 years

2. Thomas Carn, died in 1568 at the age of 207 years

3. Elizabeth Yorath, died February 13, 1668 at the age of 177 years

4. William Edwards, died February 24, 1668 at the age of 168 years

5. Joice Heth, died 1835 at the age of 161 years

6. Petratsh Zartan (Setrasch Czartan), died 1724 at the age of 187 years

7. Thomas Parr, died 1635 at the age of 152 years

8. Kentigren, died January 5, 600 A.D. at the age of 185 years

9. Baba Harainsingh, died 1952 at the age of 176 years

10. John Rovin, died 1741 at the age of 172 years and his wife of 147 years of marriage,
Sarah Desson Rovin, died 1741 at the age of 164 years

11. Henry Jenkins, died 1670 at the age of 169 years

12. Javier Pereira, died 1958 at the age of 169 years

13. Shirali Mislimov, died 1973 at the age of 168 years

14. Zaro Aga, died 1934 at the age of 164 (or 157) years

15. Robert Lynch, died 1830 at the age of 160 years

I haved put together a new blog with the details of these remarkable centurians here.

samantha

Apr 30 2009 07:19 PM

I know many biblical scholars who have taught themselves Aramaic. Old coins are very easy to lay hand on. I wouldn't know enough to date or authenicate a Knights Templar set of armor or know how hard it is to come by. Do you?

Since there are no scientifically documented humans to have lived more than 122 years, I seriously doubt the person you have met is even that old. If this person has been around for that long there should be pictures of him from 10, 20, 50, 100 years ago (unless part of the story is that he has been a hermit all his life and never interacted with anyone). If he has been "out in the open" then there should be pictures. He should be in country databases as having a driver's license, social security number, marriage license, birth certificate, birth certificates of his children. Other people who have met him would have somehow documented his presence in their lives, whether through journal entries in a diary or through pictures. If nothing like that exists, then the person is a fraud. Plain and simple. Sorry.

Jean Clement was scientifically documented to have lived to be 122. There was evidence from all stages of her life.

Thank you Mind for your post.

I pretty much agree with you, except there are many non-scientific and non-verified reports of people living hundreds of years throughout history; which cannot be totally disregarded. I am still researching a 100 plus year old photograph of him taken with Madame Curie in Paris, France.

Statistically speaking, how likely are you to meet someone with has in his possession a 2,500 year old "coin", an old Knights Templar set of armor, and is able to speak an ancient dialect of Aramaic?

These are a few of the items that added to the preponderance of circumstantial evidence that I have seen so far that convinced me he is the real thing. As far as proving it scientifically, beyond any reasonable doubt, I do not believe that this is even possible; even with a DNA test. However, I will endeavor to find out as much as I can about him as I can.

zerokule

Jun 14 2009 03:32 PM

Since there are no scientifically documented humans to have lived more than 122 years, I seriously doubt the person you have met is even that old. If this person has been around for that long there should be pictures of him from 10, 20, 50, 100 years ago (unless part of the story is that he has been a hermit all his life and never interacted with anyone). If he has been "out in the open" then there should be pictures. He should be in country databases as having a driver's license, social security number, marriage license, birth certificate, birth certificates of his children. Other people who have met him would have somehow documented his presence in their lives, whether through journal entries in a diary or through pictures. If nothing like that exists, then the person is a fraud. Plain and simple. Sorry.

Jean Clement was scientifically documented to have lived to be 122. There was evidence from all stages of her life.

Really hard to believe that any of these immortals would show themselves unless to a great trusted friend, even so they would have issues to deal with in the trust arena. Like for sale there are people who would give millions of dollars to an informant to the aid of capturing an immortal, captured & secured, the technical information alone would bring fortunes to the holder of..
no one would love to be a Ginnie Pig held against your will for experimentation. For an immortal to come forward would be suicide in a manner of speaking.. yet you'd say I'd do it. But until that shoe fits, you'll need to dig into aspects of such a situation.

To think I'd stumble upon a cocktail of liquid amino's.. 10 in one multi-vitamins with a series of programmed nano-shells injected into my bloodstream giving my body a series diagnostics, then preparing a cocktail of Cancer killers, or Hepatitis C Assassins & the diagnostics discoveries slipping more information through electrical nerve endings, communication to & fro the nano-shell & subconscious, the consciousness might be a Hindenburg to repairing & enhancing the body because the technical fire of it all would be over most most of our heads. Yet here we are at the brink of perpetual nano-cars in our bloodstreams, doing these things & so much more not even on paper yet.. using s of the imagination for, so not really just dreaming we are discovering, uncovering new to us realities.. all of this becoming more & more real, in our lifetime we may come to know immortal.. know it? know of it.. that it is there for us.. if we dare.. yet it may be just a few steps beyond our ability of acquiring it.
I dislike the negative I seem to inject into things, we are a people who have had much negative in our lives it is there because without it there could be no failure.. no failure no success, so tell me if I'm wrong.. just kidding...
zerokule~

pleb

Sep 02 2012 09:41 AM

There is no such thing as a set of Knights Templar armour,
the knights were recruited into the order and bought there own armour with them from whatever country they came from so the armour would be of a local design to their region,
the only distinguishing marks on any Templar device was a white shield the top quarter painted black for knights and red for Sargents

knights were just that, mostly young zealous and pious men from wealthy families, who bought their own armour with them
they also had to bring their own horses and clothing, the rest of the templars approximately 90% were made up from ordinary men and called Sargent's, there were just the two ranks,

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