Heidegger once said "Would living forever add meaning to life?"
what you think?
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Dying. Will it make you happier?, Just opinions
Posted 26 November 2008 - 02:23 AM
Posted 26 November 2008 - 02:29 AM
Living makes me happy, there's no other perpetuation of happiness, can one continue happiness in death?Heidegger once said "Would living forever add meaning to life?"
what you think?
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Posted 03 December 2008 - 02:36 AM
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Posted 03 December 2008 - 03:22 AM
I am already happy, because I choose to be happy. My happiness does not rely on external factors.
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But living longer will allow me to accomplish more of my goals. I'll have more time to practice qigong, to write more books, to watch more of my children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren grow up. Maybe it won't make me any happier, but it will give me the chance to make sure that my life matters more.
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You are a lucky man if you can simply "choose to be happy." Most people don't have it so good.
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Posted 03 December 2008 - 08:48 AM
As for being happy, I agree with the rats conditioned comment. If you were to transport a king from say the 1500s to your apartment right now and tell him that he can trade his entire kingdom and everything he has to you right then in exchange for your life in your apartment then hes going to pick your apartment. The poor amongst us are vastly extremely more wealthy than the richest of the richest kings that have past through time.
Posted 03 December 2008 - 09:05 AM
It takes work, and I am not always successful. But most people are conditioned to believe that their happiness is at the mercy of external forces, and thus never learn to truly love their lives; they cling to fleeting moments of pleasure because they don't know how to appreciate their suffering. They miss out on savoring the full range of their experiences.
Posted 03 December 2008 - 09:19 AM
Trust me I am one to savor pleasure and "appreciate" suffering as you put it. I happen to to suffer from clinical depression, which is not something I can just think my way out of.
So my point is, Korimyr the Rat, that it a person's mental state and well being is not always within their control. I do believe, however, that there is the possibility of more effective treatment for mental illness in the future, especially when technology becomes more integrated with the brain and we understand how it all functions better.
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Posted 14 December 2008 - 02:30 AM
Heidegger once said "Would living forever add meaning to life?"
what you think?
Posted 14 December 2008 - 02:51 AM
Heidegger once said "Would living forever add meaning to life?"
what you think?
No, I think it would subtract meaning. As someone who long ago realized that the concept of "post-mortem preservation of personal identity" was pure bullshit, the only meaning I have left to cling to is the artificial meaning I create from local personal interactions in response to my realization of my own personal mortality. Take that away from me and all bets are off.
P.S. But I do really enjoy reading Heidegger.
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Posted 15 December 2008 - 09:04 PM
Im not sure if Im understanding this exactly, are you saying the artificial meaning you create from local personal interaction is the only reason to be alive that you can think of?
Posted 15 December 2008 - 09:34 PM
Im not sure if Im understanding this exactly, are you saying the artificial meaning you create from local personal interaction is the only reason to be alive that you can think of?
No, just the primary reason.
Of course. If I could live without death's crushing limitations, without every breath forcing me closer to oblivion, without having my every joy and love trapped on a timeline, how could I not be happier? And, if against all odds, I still found reason to be miserable, I would have an infinite amount of time to find a solution. If we could be immortal, we could outlive our problems (or at least we'd have a chance), rather than being caught in a world where happiness is fleeting and death lasts forever.
Edited by brokenportal, 15 December 2008 - 10:22 PM.
Posted 15 December 2008 - 10:01 PM
Of course. If I could live without death's crushing limitations, without every breath forcing me closer to oblivion, without having my every joy and love trapped on a timeline, how could I not be happier? And, if against all odds, I still found reason to be miserable, I would have an infinite amount of time to find a solution. If we could be immortal, we could outlive our problems (or at least we'd have a chance), rather than being caught in a world where happiness is fleeting and death lasts forever.
This reminds me of the idea that life spans with aging make it so we are like disposable goods. Items that you spend some time acquiring, but dont invest anything in because they arent worth keeping around in the long run. Like you buy a napkin, but you dont try to clean the napkin when your done and keep reusing it.
Posted 15 December 2008 - 10:21 PM
Of course. If I could live without death's crushing limitations, without every breath forcing me closer to oblivion, without having my every joy and love trapped on a timeline, how could I not be happier? And, if against all odds, I still found reason to be miserable, I would have an infinite amount of time to find a solution. If we could be immortal, we could outlive our problems (or at least we'd have a chance), rather than being caught in a world where happiness is fleeting and death lasts forever.
This reminds me of the idea that life spans with aging make it so we are like disposable goods. Items that you spend some time acquiring, but dont invest anything in because they arent worth keeping around in the long run. Like you buy a napkin, but you dont try to clean the napkin when your done and keep reusing it.
I wouldn't say we're like disposible napkins. The way I see it, human lives more are like priceless tapistries. And death is like the careless janitor that knows no better than to toss out the tapestries amoung the used tissues and disposible debris.
Edited by brokenportal, 15 December 2008 - 10:28 PM.
Posted 16 December 2008 - 02:12 AM
I wouldn't say we're like disposible napkins. The way I see it, human lives more are like priceless tapistries. And death is like the dutiful janitor that knows no better than to toss out the tapestries amoung the used tissues and disposible debris.
Posted 16 December 2008 - 02:18 AM
I wouldn't say we're like disposible napkins. The way I see it, human lives more are like priceless tapistries. And death is like the dutiful janitor that knows no better than to toss out the tapestries amoung the used tissues and disposible debris.
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Posted 16 December 2008 - 02:43 AM
I wouldn't say we're like disposible napkins. The way I see it, human lives more are like priceless tapistries. And death is like the dutiful janitor that knows no better than to toss out the tapestries amoung the used tissues and disposible debris.
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Im not sure I understand exactly what your saying again. Are you saying that its our duty to die?
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