In our physics forum there is a discussion about the universe.
There are so many different theories people believe in and everyone is so sure in their theories, and they are ALL proved mathematically.
The thing is that you can prove it is possible mathematically if you have extra or specific variables, but you can prove that you have that, you can't prove it exists or that you are right.
So like I said earlier, you mentioned two sets, now how do you prove set 2 exists?
Do you see what I mean?
"Ok, sure, logical, we can have two sets.. but do we have them?"
Besides, you are talking about "nonhuman ?nature?", we first started, what can we expect from an immortal body, now you are saying what you saw or experienced in a non immortal body? or what you might feel and why you are right? and then you confused immortal with just one with infinite information.
Does it lead into anywhere? Kate and I sticked to one opinion, I can't remember how many others were there.
In our opinions just an immortal body won't be expected anything but to live, not to die. You won't recognize them at all if you saw them next to you, not even if they talked to you. You can be that body and not know it until you were in a situation (or more than one) where a normal person would have died.
Even then, you will still be yourself, you will be confused - why did you not die? how come? how much can you survive? you'll probably need to wait SO MANY (billions?) years to realize that you can survive ANYTHING, that your fear system would be completely messed up.
You could be the most stupid person in earth, but yet be immortal.
Then add cyborg technology, intelligence increasing chips, nanotechnology, biotechnology.
You'll be fast, you'll be strong, you might be able to fly, to shapeshift.. you'll be able to understand things faster, see more, react faster, remember more, think faster.. Only when they do those things related to intelligence, memory, understanding.. only then you'll be somewhat special in feeling. Otherwise you are immortal, strong, shape shifts.. but feels pretty much the same as you observe the world (with a few differences from what you learnt you can do), still human.
That is my opinion.
Now if you claim "nonhuman, super nature exists and it exists right now and human can experience it", you can't just say it exists and expect people to go "ohhh awesome!"
I describe a gradual improvement that gets people out of the human shells, I don't say "there is set one, now there is set two, see how it makes sense?" but then I give no hint of set 2 even existing, other than just saying so.
Personally, I never saw or experienced set 2 in my life.
When I asked you what did you see, I meant regarding to its existence that you are so sure of.
If it exists, if mere humans can experience it like you claim so, we'd hear of at least one superman out there.
Otherwise, like I said, scientists did experiment with things like NDE. They also experienced with Out of Body Experience and even with the feeling that people get in religious moments where they feel suddenly enlightened and know everything.
These feelings are feelings and have been replicated in a lab.
Unless you can prove it is more than feelings, who cares of your magnetic field changed? You feel something, can you do something now? you claim the feeling is so great, like injecting infinite knowledge in one second.. great! but you do you really have infinite knowledge? If you do, show it, otherwise who cares about your magnetic field and what does it have to do with anything?
Prove us that set 2 exists, don't just say it does.
That´s a lot of questions what proves that you are interested on the subject. Great! I´ll try to answer at least some of the questions.
About the nature: It can be demonstrated (when and if somebody give me the opportunity) that the human nature (mine, for the time beeing) can be modified in a very significant way. The result of those modifications can no longer be called a "common human nature" (otherwise even a rat could have a human nature). The word, as I told you, is not important: "super human nature" or any other name would be fine! The important thing is that we have two different natures. N1 is not equal to N2 because the properties diverge too much. To prove to you that "set 2" exists would be a piece of cake if you spend some time nearby me (if you trust your eyes, your brain and your own equipment).
1) A human brain does not have the capacity of direct interference in annother brain (causing deep sleep in one/two minuts, sometimes severe brain disturbances that look like epilleptic attacks, and general nervous disturbance, like euphory or others...).
2) A human brain does not have the capacity to interfeere with public lamps in a way that the relation of causality (between the presence of the brain and lamps malfunction) can be mathematicaly proven.
3) When somebody with a "common human nature" goes to the streets, does not put everybody looking at him, because of the field interference with other brains, and because the look of his eyes is so different that everybody noticed it! (I can be so ignored as if I was dressig like a clown).
4) The other properties that can be verified inside the body can only be detected with sophisticated laboratory equipment, if it is possible (I don´t know).
The amount of diferences is so great, that I don´t know how we can still call it a "common human nature" (except for some "details", so to speak).
As you can imagine this is a very dellicated matter and that´s why the scientists and politicians don´t know what to do with this (and me neather).
It is not possible to demonstrate that a certain body is immortal (by his properties), by the simple reason that nobody in the world knows what are those properties.
So, the only thing that can be proved is that a certain body is "not exactly human" and nothing else!
I hope I have gave you some anwsers to your questions.