I'm sure I'll get roasted for the provocative title, but I'm just trying to get as many replies and feedback on this topic as possible.
So basically, hederagenin seems to be a powerful TRI (triple reuptake inhibitor) like coke, as my dude Lozko55 posted about over here. SilverHydra said "Speaking as the guy who wrote the Examine page I would put hederagenin on the short list of things that are of very high interest in the coming few years" (on that same post).
You can find much more information on hederagenin on the excellent mybiohack article on it here and on examine of course.
Now, my main question is about the reliability/safety of this somewhat sketchy consumer source I found for hederagenin. It's available via this Indian eBay seller, who apparently is selling a Hedera Helix extract that's standardized for 10% hederagenin - source.
I really want to pull the trigger on this but I'm concerned about the purity and safety of the extract in question, given that it's from eBay and a developing country. Do y'all think it's worth the risk? I've asked for CoAs and heavy metal reports, and the seller said he'll get the manufacturer to send them to me but Idk if that will happen.
Interesting background on hederagenin:
Anteus Labs had a product called Axon containing hederagenin as the active ingredient available a few years ago, and some people seemed to really enjoy the effects. However, it wasn't that popular so they discontinued it. On Longecity, the owner of Anteus Labs said that hederagenin wasn't very bioavailable, but that a small percentage is - source.
You need to keep in mind that hederagenin is incredibly powerful based on the rats study done, so even a small amount passing the BBB can create powerful effects.
Finally, we have a very anecdotal but interesting report here by a user describing hederagenin as "cocaine but much much more mellow" source. And yes this guy smoked caffeine and did a ton of other drugs but there are other anecdotal reports of the old Axon product being awesome by users on AnabolicMinds, etc.
Are you excited yet? I sure am. Now the big problem is that there isn't an easily accessible source of hederagenin. As I posted before, there's a pdf available here: http://www.chinjmap....er_id=11&falg=1 that lists the percentage content of hederagenin in different plants. However, it's in Chinese. I'm hoping someone can translate the relevant portion.
Edited by jacobjerondin, 30 May 2018 - 09:07 PM.