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Is it safe to drink olive oil to gain weight?


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#31 Shepard

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Posted 24 April 2006 - 10:36 PM

Your BMI is 34? You're female, right? Um...someone else say it, I don't want to.

#32 guyledouche

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Posted 25 April 2006 - 02:14 AM

I have noticed that vegetable oil is much cheaper than olive oil. Would it be safe and healthy to drink the vegetable oil instead of the olive oil?

#33 stormheller

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Posted 25 April 2006 - 02:39 AM

It's gross to drink oil, period. Eat normal food, just lots of it.

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#34 guyledouche

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Posted 25 April 2006 - 02:53 AM

It's gross to drink oil, period. Eat normal food, just lots of it.


I would rather get my calories over with in a few seconds than to have to eat a whole meal. I dont like eating food. Only when Im starving or if its really good food.

#35 stormheller

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Posted 25 April 2006 - 02:58 AM

You see, therein lies the problem.

#36 Shepard

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Posted 25 April 2006 - 04:05 AM

Vegetable oil is not so good.

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Posted 25 April 2006 - 08:23 PM

Rather than drinking olive oil you could just put it onto some wholemeal bread (toast), put tbsp in a bowl of beans, canned or other... also add a protein shake to each meal. Calories will add up and you gain weight :)

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Posted 25 April 2006 - 10:47 PM

I would rather get my calories over with in a few seconds than to have to eat a whole meal. I dont like eating food. Only when Im starving or if its really good food.

Maybe use MCT oil:
http://www.parrillo....detail.asp?id=1

But, I'd still try to load up on protein, too.

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Posted 25 April 2006 - 11:09 PM

I don't think MCT would be his best bet since he's trying to gain weight and needs every Calorie that he can get. Although, if he is taking in a significant amount of additional fat, I do think it is a good idea to mix up the sources.

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Posted 25 April 2006 - 11:23 PM

I have noticed that vegetable oil is much cheaper than olive oil. Would it be safe and healthy to drink the vegetable oil instead of the olive oil?

Depends. There are lots of types of "vegetable oil". The most common these days seems to be soybean oil, which has a fair amount of saturated fat for a vegetable oil (still not bad compared to, say, butter), and the linoleic acid in soybean oil actually compensates for the saturated fat.

Other types include corn oil, which is very high in omega-6 fats, and quite low in omega-3 fats, so it'd be okay in small amounts, but at the doses you're considering, it'd probably be bad, as it could throw your body's omega 3/6 ratio out of a healthy range.

Canola oil would have a better omega-3/omega-6 ratio, but I've read or heard that canola oil might be toxic. But I don't let that stop me, because canola oil is quite popular, low in saturated fat, and as I mentioned, has a good omega 3/6 ratio. And the reports I've heard/read of canola oil sounded like they were from conspiracy theorists, etc., so I don't know what to make of them.

Another popular oil among health buffs is coconut oil. It's the vegetable oil with the highest level of saturated fat, including palmitic and myristic acid, so it can raise cholesterol levels. But it's also very high in lauric acid, which has numerous health benefits. Because of the cholesterol risk, I wouldn't take more than a tablespoon a day, and preferably even less if your cholesterol levels aren't great. But it could be a nice supplement to say canola oil, which is very low in saturated fat.

Actually, here's a piece of advice on coconut oil I got on the CR Society mailing list:

Jay,

Coconut oil has its pluses and its minuses.  Mary Enig has written several
well-referenced articles about the benefits of coconut fatty acids,
specially lauric acid, for the immune system.  Some of these fatty acids are
substantial constituents of breast milk.  Human butterfat is a highly
saturated product which has 5% lauric acid, 8% myristic acid, 25% palmitic
acid, and 8% stearic acid.  Obviously, mother nature did not make a mistake!

However, with regard to the effects on cholesterol, I have not seen any
evidence to contradict the fact that myristic acid is highly cholesteremic,
and palmitic acid less so.

If you consume coconut products, you should also consume sources of linoleic
acid to balance the fatty acids.  I sometimes eat coconut macaroons, and I
make dark chocolate clusters with coconut and sunflower seeds to give them a
chewy consistency that makes them last longer and more satisfying than
chocolate that melts and leaves you with nothing.  I also supplement with
about one tablespoon of grape seed oil per day.

The key is moderation and balance, and using the Hegsted equation on your
fatty acid intakes to figure out the right proportions to avoid
cholesteremia.  One of these days, this will be built into nutrition software.


It should be noted that many coconut oil promoting websites claim that the cholesterol link is "bad science", in that the original studies done four decades ago or so used hydrogenated coconut oil, since they wanted to use "solid" fats to better measure how much the mice/rats ate, and coconut oil is liquid at just above room temperature. Using a hydrogenated coconut oil would naturally return completely useless results for determining the effects of pure (organic) coconut oil.

However, this Hegsted equation seems to be much more well researched, and the math speaks for itself, though of course a proper study would be nice, and I haven't come across one (the coconut oil promoters seem to be lacking this key piece of evidence, at least so far as I've seen).

#41 Shepard

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Posted 26 April 2006 - 01:10 AM

I guess I should correct my statement. I was referring to what is generally called vegetable oil in the supermarket (corn/canola). There are other oils that are technically vegetable oils that are acceptable (olive oil is technically a vegetable oil).

#42 guyledouche

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Posted 26 April 2006 - 04:02 AM

Another popular oil among health buffs is coconut oil. It's the vegetable oil with the highest level of saturated fat]QUOTE[/b] (jaydfox]Another popular oil among health buffs is coconut oil. It's the vegetable oil with the highest level of saturated fat)<!--QuoteEBegin]Rape Seed Oil or "Canola"? 

Canola is a coined word. It appeared out of nowhere and is not listed in any but the most recent reference sources.

The flip side of the canola coin reads: "rape"! You must admit that canola sounds better than rape. The name canola disguised the introduction of rape oil to America.

Canola oil comes from the rape seed, which is part of the mustard family of plants. Rape is the most toxic of all food-oil plants. Like soy, rape is a weed. Insects will not eat it; it is deadly poisonous! The oil from the rape seed is a hundred times more toxic than soy oil.


Jaydfox I would like to use Canola oil considering its cheap price and omega 3 content but Im not 100% sure about its safety yet, above is an excerpt that I found regarding Canola oil and toxicity.

I wonder if this is true or if it is some lame misunderstanding. Im pretty sure that Canola oil would be treated in a way that would eliminate the toxicity of the rape seeds when it is processed at the factory. The FDA might be lenient but they arent going to allow us to consume deadly seeds.

full link >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.shirleys-....com/canola.htm

Edited by guyledouche, 26 April 2006 - 05:14 AM.


#43 alexoverhere

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Posted 18 May 2006 - 06:21 AM

why not try preparing more appetizing food?

also, check out this articles for some ideas for eating more: http://www.sciencene...060218/food.asp

some of Rolls' and others' studies show that satiety is sensory specific (supported by both behavioral evidence in humans and neuronal data in macaques), so it might be a good idea to eat many different kinds of calorie-dense foods (with different flavors *and* textures) per meal.




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