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Parasites, Worms

Shepard's Photo Shepard 24 May 2006

allopathic medicine is good at treating active conditions.


Assuming you find a doctor that is well-read, experienced, keeps up to date, etc. then I would agree.
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Guest_da_sense_* 24 May 2006

Well, to be honest, I don't know what they were... but I dont usually have long (couple inches) stringy things come out in my stool.  Also, I often have chunks of what looks like pieces of this:
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And, though I haven't eaten nuts in a long time, I still occasionally have granules in the stool that have the consistency of crushed or chewed nuts.  Now, I honestly don't know what that is, but something I read made me believe they were eggs.  And I'd ere on the side of caution and cleanse my body just in case.  :)


Well in that case i'd be worried too :) Why don't you visit a doctor and do a check? These things are relatively easy to get rid of with modern medicine/drugs.
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rahein's Photo rahein 24 May 2006

Just curious, what scale are those pictures. If they are close to real size wouldn't they physically block parts of your intestines?
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sentrysnipe's Photo sentrysnipe 24 May 2006

Well, to be honest, I don't know what they were... but I dont usually have long (couple inches) stringy things come out in my stool.  Also, I often have chunks of what looks like pieces of...

I did an intensive bowel "detox" not a long time ago with fasting. Main ingredients were
a) 15-20g/day of psyllium, then bentonite, magnesium and b) proprietary blend of the herbs (mainly Wormwood and Black Walnut as anti-parasitic herbs. fda prohibits large amounts, toxic) supposedly to kill broad spectrum worms, bacteria, protozoa. I think I got the same description of stool that you got - white almond shape like, or seemed like an oversized grain of rice, off-white in color. I'm not sure if those were eggs (too big?) or baby creepy crawlers. Glad to get it over with. I'd like to do it for the third time to be sure but I'd have to gain more weight first. Or try ivermectin.

My fear has relived once again. Now I tend to be freakier with public washroom doors, and sushi. Is it true that there are generally less bacteria found on your desk than on your toilet seat?
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Shepard's Photo Shepard 24 May 2006

There is probably more bacteria on the mouse you're using than you can imagine.
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the big b's Photo the big b 24 May 2006

So big b I guess you are Meatwad or Master Shake then. I am frylock already :)


Master Shake actually [lol]

There is probably more bacteria on the mouse you're using than you can imagine.


This is actually true, I personally clean my desk, keyboard, mouse, monitor button, and tower button weekly. Or if someone other than myself uses it, next day.

But anyway, so what would be the best method for parasite/worm removal & control? Pre-made supplements like Para-Gone, albendazole, ivermectin, fasting, apple cider vinegar, bowel detox?
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Shepard's Photo Shepard 24 May 2006

Like I said, healthy diet/hygiene should be enough to keep it under control. Other than that, it is mostly up to you as far as which method you use to "detox". Cost, ease of attaining the items, lifestyle, risk, etc.
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Guest_da_sense_* 25 May 2006

More on inulin:

http://www.ivp.kvl.d...eport-2002.aspx

"Diets containing the highly fermentable carbohydrate inulin markedly decreased the establishment and fecundity of Oesophagostomum dentatum. The main metabolic products from microbial fermentation of inulin in the large intestine of pigs are short-chain fatty acids (SCFA). In 2002 we investigated the direct effect of infusing SCFA on already established O. dentatum infection in cannulated pigs. After two weeks of adaptation to a standard diet the pigs were inoculated with 6000 infective larvae of O. dentatum. Six weeks later, surgery was performed to install cannulas in the pigs. On week 7 p.i. SCFA infusion was initiated in pigs in Group 1; pigs in Group 2 served as controls and received saline. At week 10, all pigs were necropsed and their worm burdens determined. SCFA infused pigs had markedly reduced faecal egg counts and worm recoveries were reduced 88% compared to saline controls. The results from this study indicate that bacterial fermentation products of highly fermentable carbohydrates such as SCFA have a significant negative influence on established O. dentatum infection. This provides strong evidence that host microflora can significantly affect the host-parasite relationship. The research in 2003 will focus on determining the mode of action of SCFA and on extending these studies with inulin to other parasites."

" Nutritional Deworming

This year’s research on the diet/parasite interactions continue to be focused on understanding the mechanism(s) behind the marked antiparasitic effects of certain types of carbohydrates on Oesophagostomum dentatum in pigs. Special attention was paid to defining single nutritional components that have antiparasitic effects, such as inulin and sugar beet fibre which might provide a basis for potential future control measures. This is an extension of previous studies that demonstrated highly antiparasitic effects of diets rich in highly fermentable carbohydrates. To investigate the role of inulin and sugar beet fibres on O. dentatum as either single and/or combined components a dietary switch-over design was used. Pigs were fed normal diets, infected with O. dentatum, then subsequently switched to comparable diets, which contained carbohydrates with different digestibility in the large intestine of pigs. The inulin/sugar beet fibre manipulation drastically reduced already established O. dentatum worm burdens, yielding in essence “nutritional deworming”. We have a body of evidence that diets with highly degradable carbohydrate components such as inulin may provide a basis for potential control measures. "
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Guest_da_sense_* 25 May 2006

On propolis:
http://www.vitacost....n/Parasites.htm

"Propolis is a resinous substance collected by bees from the leaf buds and bark of trees, especially poplar and conifer trees. The antimicrobial properties of propolis may help protect against parasitic infections in the gastrointestinal tract. One preliminary trial of propolis extract for children and adults with giardiasis showed a 52% rate of successful parasite elimination in children and a 60% elimination rate in adults (amount not stated).1 These results are not as impressive as those achieved with conventional drugs for giardiasis, though, so propolis should not be used as the sole therapy for parasites without first consulting a physician about available medical treatment."
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JMorgan's Photo JMorgan 25 May 2006

The Taenia solium pics are not to scale. What I've seen (if it's even part of that) is much smaller. And I'm not worried really. I only see this after taking the Vaxa product for a few days consistently, which supposedly kills the parastites/worms so they naturally break apart in your intestines, coming out in pieces and resulting in an increase in flatulence. [lol]
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FunkOdyssey's Photo FunkOdyssey 25 May 2006

What I've seen (if it's even part of that) is much smaller. And I'm not worried really. I only see this after taking the Vaxa product for a few days consistently, which supposedly kills the parastites/worms so they naturally break apart in your intestines, coming out in pieces

Hmm... by what mechanism of action does that vaxa product exert its effects?

I am reminded of the colon cleanse formulas that produce stool consisting of long chains of gelled substance in the mold of your colon -- supposedly dried fecal matter that you've cleaned out. In reality, its just the fiber in the product that creates this appearance.
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kurdishfella's Photo kurdishfella 18 Oct 2022

Parasite and worms happen as a result of underworking immune system, if your immune system is healthy you will never get them. It is possible by becoming healthy your immune system will automatically kill the parasites inside your body.

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kurdishfella's Photo kurdishfella 05 Dec 2022

some people that eat worms never get
Edited by kurdishfella, 05 December 2022 - 12:34 PM.
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