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#1 Believer

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Posted 03 December 2019 - 09:00 PM


A month ago my 75 year old father had a stroke, brain bleeding followed by multiple blood clots.

His left side, arm, hand, leg and feet is practically immovable but not numb.

He has difficulty swallowing and chewing food due to some oral reflex being dysfunctional, typical for stroke patients.

 

The objective is to regain the ability for him to walk and talk properly. His cognitive functions are intact.

 

We've tried:

(1) Nicotinic acid (niacin, 0.5-1.5 gram), it helped and helps but only slightly.

(2) Taurine 500mg, messes his sleep up but he claims it benefits him mentally.

(3) Cerebrolysin 5-25ml, once the next day he had better vision and when we did 25ml he became fatigued the next day. Total waste of money.

(4) Semax (peptogen.ru ,not sure if acetylated), absolutely worthless and overpriced, no benefit or effect at ALL. I should probably try reconstituting the acetylated powder form.

(5) DHEA timed release 50mg, helps his sleep quality. Supposed to bind to NGF receptors TrkA but doesn't seem to benefit him in that sense.

(6) IGF1-LR3 1mg intranasal, doesn't seem to have any effect at all.

(7) BPC-157 5mg intranasal, seems to alleviate his asthma symptoms.

(8) TB-500 5mg intranasal, not sure if this or BPC alleviated the asthma symptoms.

 

I wish to try:

(9) Taltirelin - 100mg, intranasal.

(10) PEG MGF - 5mg, intranasal. It's claimed to have potential growth stimulating effects in rat brain???

(11) P-21 - 50mg, intranasal.

(12) N- Acetyl Semax Amidate 30m, intranasal. The shit I bought was probably not acetylated, might as well try again.

(13) GHK-CU 100-200mg intranasal, is supposed to stimulate nerve growth factor but not sure if it also does this in the brain. Might as well try.

(14) Ladostigil, is claimed to be neurogenic.

(15) Fabomotizole (Afobazole), is supposed to increase neurotrophins. Looks promising.

 

Please advice me on supplements/drugs/peptides whatever might help



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Posted 04 December 2019 - 10:45 PM

I wish to try:

(16) Palmitoyl Tetrapeptide-7 (Rigin) is supposed to have nerve regenerating effects so will try that as well.

(17) GLP-1 (Glucagon Like Peptide -1) supposedly has neuroregenerative properties, increasing neurite outgrowth (but doesn't seem by much) so I may give it a try as well.



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Posted 05 December 2019 - 09:52 AM

I wish to try:
(18) L1L4, a fragment of nerve growth factor which is substantially cheaper to produce than nerve growth factor itself but has >60% of the binding potency of real recombinant human nerve growth factor.
"H-CTDIKGKCTGACDGKQC-OH" is the amino acid sequence of L1L4 although I am not sure if this is entirely correct.
 
 

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/18337399



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Posted 05 December 2019 - 03:57 PM

I replied in another thread.  I would go with 1% Semax if you can afford it.  

 

https://cosmicnootro.../products/semax

 

You want the 1% (pulldown menu).  



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Posted 05 December 2019 - 05:11 PM

I replied in another thread.  I would go with 1% Semax if you can afford it.  

 

https://cosmicnootro.../products/semax

 

You want the 1% (pulldown menu).  

 

Already tried it - no effect whatsoever.

If you read number (12), I have ordered a large quantity of semax (much more than those 1% bottles contain). We will see :)

 



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Posted 05 December 2019 - 07:35 PM

When did your father have the stroke?

 

These things take a lot of time to recover from.  Nerves and brain tissue regenerate *very* slowly.  What these peptides might do for you is make the recovery somewhat faster and hopefully wind up at a better endpoint.  But nothing is going to improve the recovery time from 6-12 months to a month or so.

 

BTW - sorry that your father has had to go through this.

 

 

ETA:  I see it was a month ago.  Yeah, nothing is going to make a dramatic improvement at the one month mark.  These strategies are to pull in a recovery so that a 1 year recovery might be compressed into 9 months and have an endpoint that is more functional at that point.  Even if we had stem cell therapy up and running for strokes, you wouldn't see anything miraculous at the 1 month mark.

 

 


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Posted 06 December 2019 - 05:55 PM

If you can find it there is a post from niner buried in the c60 thread where he gave his mother in law a bottle of c60oo while in hospital recovering from a stroke and stated her to have made a full recovery. This study appeared to supported this approach, though timeliness obviously matters, so it is referenced somewhat for information purposes.

 

http://news.rice.edu...-flow-in-brain/

 

I would have thought fasting would be of benefit. Quickly found this:

 

https://spinalflowyo...troke-recovery/

 

This is of limited evidence obviously, since we'd prefer to know the benefit without pre-stroke fasting. There was an interesting comment posted though of someone experiencing tingling in the affected after a 24 hour fast.

 

Aside: I recall reading over a decade ago of a method of watching videos of yourself moving the unaffected side of the body, stimulates the activity in the brain associated with injury and aided recovery (when we wish to indicate to someone they have sauce on their left cheek, we instinctively point to our right one).

 

What about other NAD precursors other than Niacin?

 

https://svn.bmj.com/content/4/2/83

 

Good luck

 

Also I'd research meditation too.







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