does anyone know a good substance to reduce anxiety in social situations such as parties? Alcohol has been the drug of choice in that area for but the healthy doses (1-3 drinks) do not seem to be effective enough, and beyond that the risk of various negative ailments just becomes too large (not mention the working time lost to hangover) to justify its usage (for serious life extensionist). I think this a serious topic as alcohol/illicit drugs are probably the crux of many young life extensionists regime.
I have had good results with AOR's Ortho-Adapt as it reduces the dose needed with alcohol, but still not enough. I was thinking of adding something along the lines of phenibut, but I do not know that much it about neither do I know a source within EU. Would that be good?
This M&M thread assesses pretty much the same issue (although my problem is not restricted to hitting up girls but business contacts too), that's where I got the idea for phenibut too. If someone has additional arguments besides the ones presented in that thread that would be great, however, I would really like that this thread does not degenerate to discussion about social cognition or mental models, suffice to say I am past that, I need chemical assistance
http://www.mindandmu...showtopic=23931
Preferably the substance should be legit, and it would be super if someone could point me to a source within EU area. The substance could be for long term usage (like an anti-depressant, stronger adaptogen than what is in Ortho-Adapt) but preferably something with acute effects.
this isnt going to be a popular piece of advice for a group like imminst, who're very focused on supplements as a cure for anything.
while everything has its place, this isnt a situation it does.
i have a buddy like you, without the drug problems i seem to remember you talking about elsewhere.
it is very, very rare for someone to never get a bit uneasy, on occasion, in a public situation. its just like the biggest zipper pimp on the planet occasionally gets tongue tied with a chick. so, it is my opinon that total negation is impossible, for all but very few.
instead of basing your plan around intoxication or supplemental calm, how about beating your fear?
my buddy has a fairly juvenile POV that imagines every time he tries to talk to a chick, hes not only gonna get blown off, hes gonna get decimated. some sort of teenaged movie, soul stealing, destruction shit.
in my travels, if you get a bad chewing out from a chick you usually deserve it. or youre dealing with some headcase, in which case, **** her.
in the former example, not many ppl act up that bad. especially a guy whos wrapped a bit too tight like yourself. so relax.
some ppl, who already have social problems, make bad choices that will compound the problem. going to a bar by yourself is a prime one. youre going to go in there, see other ppl dancing and talking.... then you start drinking. your psuedo-isolation among a seemingly jovial enviornent makes your mood nose dive, then you crawl back home and your issues are compounded by this.
my suggestion: start small and build.
goto places that dotn have loud music. this makes ppl talk to ease the tension silence always brings. add stuff to the conversation and just let things flow.
socialize at work. work is a place that youre likely to meet some pals to hit a bar with. all you need it one person to go with.
join a local group of some sort. or start one and advertise it.
give the appearance of being happy and funny. you dont have to actually be funny, most ppl will appeciate the effort. upbeat is always good.
smile at ppl, paticularly chicks. im assuming youre straight here. smiling for no reason to this day strikes me as dumb, but it works. and i do what works.
at the end fo the day, this is like that old saying: give a man a fish, and feed him for a day. teach him to fish, and you feed him for life. needing drinks or supplements works for a moment, when you dose up. otherwise, youre fucked. you can beat your phobia, especially if you commit to it fully. its alot easier than you think.