'Are We Sure Fisetin Actually Clears Senescent Cells?'
#1
Posted 31 August 2026 - 08:02 AM
#2
Posted 31 August 2026 - 01:09 PM
Unfortunately, running clinical trials is extremely laborious in the US and Europe. What makes investigations into fisetin tougher is that big-pharma has no interest in it (except to patent a non-natural version and charge $500 a pill). Also, the FDA won't approve things unless there are understandable and precise clinical endpoint measurements. It is a terrible system for investigating natural compounds.
One of the other problems is the complexity of senescence and aging itself. As you posted, measurement outcomes do not necessarily correlate with one specific action, but most likely a range of actions. For robust rejuvenation, a large number of interventions will likely be needed (including senolytics like fisetin). Unfortunately, the current FDA approval system will never be able to handle such a complex set of interventions all at once.
That being said, I think fisetin has enough positive evidence behind it to warrant usage by biohackers. I have taken it on and off over the last 5 years.
#3
Posted 22 September 2026 - 01:13 AM
Liposomal, why did it have to be liposomal...

Good piece, and the question you land on is the right one.
Two things I can add, one of which may make the absorption problem look worse than the article suggests...
First, the numbers on how far apart the dish and the bloodstream are. There is a human pharmacokinetic study of plain fisetin in healthy volunteers that gives us the real exposure figure (PMID 36304817). A 1,000 mg oral dose of unformulated fisetin produced a peak plasma concentration of 9.97 ng/ml. That is roughly 33 nanomolar. Fisetin's senolytic activity in cell culture is reported in the low micromolar range, call it 5 to 20 micromolar. So a full gram of plain fisetin puts you somewhere around a thousandfold below the concentration that kills senescent cells in a dish. ![]()
The same study tested an encapsulated formulation, micelles inside a fenugreek galactomannan hydrogel, and it did work. Cmax went to 238.2 ng/ml and AUC went up 27 fold. That is a real improvement, and it lands around 790 nanomolar. Still about an order of magnitude below the in vitro range. So your instinct that we do not know what exposure is needed is correct, and the uncomfortable part is that even the best performing formulation in that study did not obviously reach the range the cell work uses. (By the way... micelles take a lot of space... we have gotten them to about 2% at the most, and its why we haven't produced a micelle Fisetin, although we certainly tried. We only have nano suspensions but it didn't increase that much).
Second point, and this is where I would push back on treating all enhanced formulations as one category. There is also the question of whether a supplement labelled liposomal even contains intact liposomes by the time you take it.
(of yeah, this one upsets me quite a bit... )
The chemistry behind that is straightforward. Liposomes made from unsaturated phospholipids are susceptible to oxidation, and sunflower phosphatidylcholine is heavily unsaturated, mostly linoleic acid with two double bonds per molecule. A stability study comparing phospholipid types found soy phosphatidylcholine liposomes, which are similarly unsaturated, lost half their content in about fourteen days at 40 C
, while DOPC liposomes were completely stable for four weeks at the same temperature, and the authors attributed the difference directly to oxidative susceptibility (PMID 24646435). The underlying chemistry is not new either, oxidation and hydrolysis are the two degradation routes for phospholipid dispersions and they are the reason liposomal stability is a formulation problem rather than a given (PMID 8242840).
Two practical consequences. A liquid liposomal product in water is subject to both hydrolysis and oxidation at once, so it has a genuine shelf life problem, which is why you sometimes see short dating windows and refrigeration instructions. A dried or powdered liposomal product has a much easier time of it. And encapsulation efficiency is a separate number from lipid choice, because you can have stable liposomes with very little of the payload actually inside them...just don't shake them, they can crack easily sometimes.
So when you compare liposomal fisetin to plain fisetin, the useful questions are which phospholipid, liquid or powder, what the measured encapsulation efficiency is, and whether there is real time stability data behind the dating on the label. "Liposomal" on a label does not certify any of that.
Where that leaves your question is slightly worse than the article concludes. Even if a liposomal product does deliver more fisetin, we do not know the target blood level for senolysis in humans, so we cannot say whether the extra exposure clears the bar, and we do not have the plain versus enhanced versus placebo trial you describe. Better absorbed and better senolytic really are two different claims, and right now we cannot confirm the second one for any formulation, liposomal or otherwise. (Mind is right... it's just freaking expensive to test unless their is IP involved.)
Worth reading if you have not, the 2024 review by people who include Kirkland and Tchkonia, who are the source of most of the senolytic work everyone else cites (PMID 39384074). They are the ones saying human outcome measures still need to be validated. That is the field talking about itself, not skeptics.
Disclosure, I run a supplement company, RevGenetics, so weigh this accordingly. We do not sell liposomal fisetin, which is part of why I looked into whether it was worth making (oh we tried, but even our expensive industrial equipment could not produce what we wanted). We use something else to help increase its uptake... we discovered it about 14 months ago. We think it's likely to increase the uptake. We don't have human data, but we do know it has a 300× potency difference over piperine. That of course is not proof it will absorb better, but it certainly would help.
Anthony
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Posted 26 September 2026 - 02:41 AM
1. The National Institute on Aging (NIA) Interventions Testing Program (ITP) Study on Fisetin (2023)The Finding: Despite immense hype from early single-cell and small mouse studies, a robust, large-scale study conducted across three separate laboratories by the Interventions Testing Program (ITP) found that Fisetin—a highly marketed anti-aging flavonoid supplement—failed to extend lifespan or reduce senescent cells in the liver, kidney, or brain.Why it matters: Unlike small, vendor-backed trials, this rigorous study utilized genetically diverse mice and massive sample sizes (over 30 times larger than previous trials), proving the supplement did not live up to its marketing claims.
2. The Mayo Clinic Human Phase 2 Trial on D+Q in Nature Medicine (2024/2025)The Finding: A rigorous, NIA-funded clinical trial published in Nature Medicine investigated the popular senolytic combination of Dasatinib and Quercetin (D+Q) in healthy postmenopausal women. It revealed that the drugs provided only limited, subtle benefits compared to the control group and failed to broadly reverse cellular aging across the cohort.Why it matters: It demonstrated that senolytics are not a "one-size-fits-all" remedy and showed negligible to no positive effects in humans unless the individual already possessed an exceptionally high baseline burden of senescent cells.
Edited by MikeDC, 26 September 2026 - 02:44 AM.
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