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Whats so great about life anyways?


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Posted 11 January 2007 - 02:08 AM


I "hear" all of you talk about immortality and longivity but what makes life so great for you that you want to live forever? [spectate]

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 02:19 AM

Today I woke up and was almost late for class. I ran the exactly 8 minute walk from my house to school (I timed it one day), and saw a friend of mine who I told I'd call as soon as I got back into town. I didn't call her, and thought for a second I'd go, but then I'd be late, and that teacher is kind of a dick. So I ran to class. She was leaving one of the fashion colleges, which I always thought looked really 70's in architecture. Man, I don't even know when that building was built....I should find that out tomorrow! Sidetracked mentally there for a moment while I did a little skip in the elevator (it was empty, don't worry) - It was an hour long class, about small business management in one of my greenhouse tech. electives. I checked on the progress of some hydroponic cucumbers I applied biological controls to before christmas - predatory wasps, competing insects basically - instead of applying chemical pesticides. I basically checked on the tiny, indoor ecosystem I built. I read and adjust the environmental controls. It needs me as much as I need it! That is awesome.

That was less than an hour of my day. It was an everyday, not great, not bad - perfect that way. A lame ass, Disney-esqe magic to it [thumb]. I just talked my friend and we spoke of Christmas. She got me into watching that stupid Prison Break show, which I now like, which we are excited to watch and make popcorn for. Yes, that's silly. But it's fun, and it's life! We could all write a story like this about our days. Living a long life will be amazing, and hopefully living an even longer one can be filled with so many of these warm fuzzies.

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Edited by mitkat, 14 January 2007 - 12:28 AM.


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Posted 11 January 2007 - 02:22 AM

The thrill of exploration and the joy of learning. The challenge of bringing my children to adulthood and then seeing them grow beyond. The love of family, knowledge and a fresh crisp breeze.

Splitting wood in winter and swimming in summer, meeting new people and sharing old times, seeing infants toddle to practice walking and talking at the same time with a smile or wiping away their tears with my sleeve when they fall.

To go to the depths of the oceans, climb mountains and even set foot on Mars and beyond. Is it any "Wonder" that I can wax poetic on such a topic?

All I wonder is with a name like yours why it seems at times like you have lost the ability to feel that sense in your words sometimes?

Isn't even struggle worth the price of life?

The only possibility of success is to face down failure.

There are no guarantees, still it is better to try and fail than to quit without even going the distance.

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 02:26 AM

Is it any "Wonder" that I can wax poetic on such a topic?


Well, everything that I was going to post was overwhelmed by the utter unpleasantness of that pun. Now I long for death.

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 02:26 AM

ROFLMAO!

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 02:28 AM

Well, everything that I was going to post was overwhelmed by the utter unpleasantness of that pun. Now I long for death.


Too bad Shepard; the pun is after all the lowest form of human.

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 02:47 AM

Here are 180 User-Contributed reasons why death is no good!

You can't write computer programs
You can't make smoothies
You can't go rock hunting/mining
You can't go skydiving
The coffin doesn’t care if you are claustrophobic
You can't go water skiing
You can't learn a foreign language
You can't watch a poorly dubbed foreign movie
You can't join a forum
You can't make friends
You can't become a photographer
You can’t watch sugar fall through the holes in your cheerios
You can't go swimming
You can't breathe
You can't play with a bunch of magnets
You can't go shopping - Have a crush on someone
You can't crush an ice cube with your teeth
You can't tell jokes
You can't read this list
You can't prepare crab for dinner
You can't feed your dog
You won't be able to smell cheap perfume
You can't eat Fruit Loops
You can't get a brain-freeze from eating ice cream too fast
You can't play with fireworks
You can't celebrate holidays
You can't water your garden
You can't watch a bug-zapper for hours on end
You can't get a piece of candy stuck in your teeth
You can't tickle a Tickle Me Elmo
You can't invest in Blue-Chip stocks
You can't try to fillet a tomato
You can't take a class
You can't learn to dance
You can't build a deck
You can't learn sign language
You can’t think about tomorrow.
You can't raise animals
You can't train a monkey
You can't lie out on the grass
You can't watch the stars
You can't go cave diving
You can't fly a jetpack
You can't eat a peanut-butter-honey-and-banana sandwich
Your fingers won't turn red from eating pistachios
You can't wash your hands
You can't brush your teeth
You can't watch your favorite team sweep the series
You can't have any more Captain Crunch
You can't enjoy the effects of hallucinogens
You can't have sex
You can't beat your friends on Super Smash Brothers
After you’re disposed of, people start digging through your stuff
You can’t steal fruit from orchards
You can’t Google something you don’t understand
You can’t change your mind
You can’t eat healthy
You can’t draw pretty pictures
You can’t write stories
You can’t pick your nose when nobody is looking
You can’t have any more waffles with whipped cream and strawberries
You can’t read a good book
You can’t watch the Perseids on a hot summer night
You can’t snuggle in front of a fireplace
You can’t toast marshmallows over a campfire
You can’t cuddle a kitty
You can’t learn something new
You can’t make love
You can’t sleep late
You can’t go to a museum
You’ll miss blinking lights
You can’t ride the Teacups at Disneyworld
You can’t order take-out
You can’t have hot monkey sex
You can’t watch monkeys at the zoo
You can’t kiss a woman
You can’t kiss a man
You can’t kiss two men at the same time
You can’t make out on a carnival ride
You can’t argue politics
You can’t argue philosophy
You can’t Nap with a cat on your head
You can’t hum the Super Mario theme song
You can’t tickle a woman
You can’t tickle a man
You can’t hug your Mom
You can’t hug your Dad
You can’t hug your Best Friend
You can’t hold hands
You can’t eat dark chocolate
You can’t smell flowers
You can’t bake cookies
You can’t watch a sunrise
You can’t climb a cliff
You can’t go bungee jumping
You can’t go skinny-dipping
You’ll miss spiking the punchbowl
You can’t give a massage
You can’t get your hair shampooed
You can’t Smell fresh cut grass
You can’t play the bass
You can’t lie on the floor watching your refugium
You can’t catch tiny starfish
You can’t Watch Bio-luminescent starfish
You can’t use text messaging
You can’t see a puffer fish puff
You can’t ride an elephant
You can’t Go coral diving
You can’t write a novel
You can’t build a house
You can’t Smell good
You can’t eat a sun-warmed raspberry
You can’t deliver a speech
You can’t make a toast
You can’t hear a song
You can’t wiggle your toes in the sand
You can’t touch a pretty girl
You can’t smell the rain
You can’t see a rainbow
You can’t Stalking People on the Internet
You’ll miss funerals
You can’t wear chastity Belts
You can’t pick Locks
You can’t take people’s lunch money
You’ll miss Kobolds
You’ll miss joining the militant wing of various groups
You’ll miss nose hairs
You’ll miss phlegm
You’ll miss paying taxes
You’ll miss carbon
You’ll miss things that taste like chicken
You’ll miss slippery slopes
You’ll miss things that gurgle
You’ll miss causing trouble
You’ll miss polygons
You’ll miss taunting Satan
You’ll miss your sidekick robin
You’ll miss beer goggles
You’ll miss deviant behavior
You’ll miss propaganda
You’ll miss putting cute furry things in scalding hot water
You’ll miss listening to George Bush speak
You’ll miss burning heathens at the stake
You’ll miss spontaneous human combustion
You’ll miss broken glass cutting through soft tissue
You’ll miss selling snake oil
You’ll miss blending in
You can’t watch Anime
You’ll miss knowing the meaning of life yet keeping It secret
You’ll miss ordering God and other Deities around
You’ll miss closed minded people
You’ll miss flashbacks to previous lives
You’ll miss being caught in the tractor beam
You’ll miss taking the "J" out of Joy
You’ll miss saying the word "****"
You’ll miss that everybody is out to get you
You’ll miss “Me Frosted Lucky Charms”
You’ll miss being abducted by aliens
You’ll miss crucifixions
You’ll miss Weapons of Mass Destruction
You’ll miss influencing others to do wrong
You’ll miss setting your laser to “Stun”
You’ll miss your comfy, padded cell
You’ll miss chewing other people’s gum
You’ll miss sudden shock
You’ll miss paranoia
You’ll miss the alien inside you
You’ll miss mass hysteria
You’ll miss Drama Drama Drama
You’ll miss omnipotence
You’ll miss the gook that builds up around toilets
You’ll miss large cash donations
You’ll miss arson
You’ll miss searching for the correct answer to 'Do I Look Fat in This?'
You’ll miss hell
You’ll miss looting
You’ll miss sinning
You’ll miss having your cake, and eating it too
You’ll miss being sent to you room
You can’t engineer a talking houseplant

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 02:50 AM

I'm happy you've finished compiling those! Some really do make me laugh, that's just what I'm talking about in my earlier post. ;)

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 03:21 AM

Smith/Oracle:

Why, Mr. Anderson, why? Why, why do you do it? Why, why get up? Why keep fighting?
Do you believe you're fighting for something, for more than your survival? Can you tell me what it is, do you even know?
Is it freedom or truth, perhaps peace - could it be for love?

Illusions, Mr. Anderson, vagaries of perception. Temporary constructs of a feeble human intellect trying desperately to justify an existence that is without meaning or purpose. And all of them as artificial as the Matrix itself. Although, only a human mind could invent something as insipid as love.

You must be able to see it, Mr. Anderson, you must know it by now! You can't win, it's pointless to keep fighting! Why, Mr. Anderson, why, why do you persist?



Neo: Because I choose to.



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Posted 11 January 2007 - 03:22 AM

What happens next?

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 03:35 AM

Neo's body dies but his consciousness is merged into the machine. He consumes his enemy through the ultimate surrender but in doing so transcends his body and becomes a part of deus ex machina.

Smith/Oracle: This is my world! My world!

{Neo is knocked back against the crater wall and is lying on the ground}

Smith/Oracle: Wait... I've seen this. This is it, this is the end.

Yes, you were laying right there, just like that, and I... I... I stand here, right here, I'm... I'm supposed to say something.

I say... Everything that has a beginning has an end, Neo.

{Neo begins to get up again}

Smith/Oracle: What? What did I just say?

No... No, this isn't right, this can't be right. Get away from me!

Neo: What are you afraid of?

Smith/Oracle: It's a trick!

Neo: You were right, Smith. You were always right. It was inevitable.


                                      {Smith/Oracle imprints over Neo}


Smith/Oracle: Is it over?

{Smith/Neo nods. Deus Ex Machina in 01 realizes what Neo has done and surges electricity through his body}

Smith/Oracle: Oh, no, no, no. No, it's not fair.


Who ever said life is fair?

Being fair is like "not going gently into that good night". It is not natural.

It is because I (we) choose to be fair. Fairness is an invention of the living to object to the unfairness of nature, life and death. Even capuchin monkeys sense the difference between that which is fair and unfair.

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 05:48 AM

We're you replying to me LL?

LOL.

I wasn't asking you what happens next, that was my answer to the original question!

what makes life so great for you that you want to live forever?

What happens next?

That is my reason for wanting to live (potentially) foever. I always want to know what happens next.

The only paradox, is I want to know what happens after I die... I mean, how will people react, what will happen etc. I want to know what happens next, and as long as I die, I will never actually know what DOES happen after that point.

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 05:53 AM

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We're you replying to me LL?

LOL


yes [bl:)]

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 06:03 AM

Hehe, thats the risk of posting openly ambiguous posts like I did. People can, and probably wil mis understand them ;)

Admittedly, when you read through the thread in a chronological order, it does very clearly look like I was asking you, I should have quoted the opening question in my first post.

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 06:05 AM

Perfect. I've been trying to think of the perfect signature for these forums. This sums up my desire for immortality exactly.

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 07:20 AM

Here's some of my thoughts:

http://rationallonge...in-details.html

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Posted 11 January 2007 - 11:01 AM

I live because I don't have a meaning. Without meaning, I cannot die, because I never was alive in the first place. My purpose in life is to find the purpose of my life.

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Posted 12 January 2007 - 03:26 AM

I live because I don't have a meaning. Without meaning, I cannot die, because I never was alive in the first place. My purpose in life is to find the purpose of my life.



What is the difference between purpose of life and meaning of life? Anne, I enjoyed reading your blog!

Edited by wonder, 12 January 2007 - 03:42 AM.


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Posted 12 January 2007 - 03:33 AM

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All I wonder is with a name like yours why it seems at times like you have lost the ability to feel that sense in your words sometimes?

What exactly do you mean by that? And who is Smith and Oracle and Neo? I wonder?............

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Posted 12 January 2007 - 03:42 AM

Out of 439 members only 7 members replied to this topic. I find that very interesting.............

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Posted 12 January 2007 - 03:48 AM

What is the difference between purpose of life and meaning of life?

I don't think there is a technical difference. And if there is, then most people don't know it anyway and thus use the two interchangably.

if you wanted to be pedantic, i wousay Purpose implies an end goal, while meaning is a more general satisfaction. You can achieve your purpose, or at least you can continue acting out your purpose, while having meaning is a state you are in.

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Posted 12 January 2007 - 04:08 AM

Out of 439 members only 7 members replied to this topic. I find that very interesting.............


It isn't that interesting. Not all members are always present. Not all members feel compelled to reply to every thread. Not all members feel the need to justify their position to anyone. Many people may have read the already stated reasons and decided that what they ahve to say doesn't add to the conversation. Their reasons ahve already been covered for instsance.

There are about a thousand reasons why only a few people reply to each thread, it isn't remarkable.

plus:

Neo, oracle, Smith are characters from the very popular films The Matrix. It is surprising that you would not have seen them.
http://en.wikipedia....e_Matrix_series

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Posted 12 January 2007 - 01:35 PM

You are right it is not remarkable, just interesting!!! ;) As for the Matrix, I never saw any of the movies, Is that not remarkable?!! The last movie I saw was Little Miss Sunshine, A very poignant look into the dynamics of family and at the individual themselves. Thanks for the link to the matrix I will take a look. [thumb]

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Posted 12 January 2007 - 01:36 PM

It is very remarkablt that you hadn't seen the matrix. Where are you from?

If you happen to like the matrix, then the most recent movie by the wachowski brothers (if that is how you spell their name) is V for Vendetta, which is up in my top 5 films of all time.

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Posted 12 January 2007 - 01:56 PM

LOLO Where am I from????? Oz, A horrible tornado brought me here and I am looking desperatley for the ruby slippers to take me home............ Actually I live in the US .

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Posted 12 January 2007 - 03:27 PM

Thanks for the link to the matrix I will take a look.


Hint: Have enough to drink to where you don't mind the wooden acting, watch only the first one, and live the rest of your life appreciating the Wachowski brothers.

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Posted 12 January 2007 - 04:59 PM

most of the time,life is pretty neutral. sometimes, its fun or horny.

but even if life is neutral mostly, its still beats than being dead and not existing.

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Posted 13 January 2007 - 01:36 PM

most of the time,life is pretty neutral. sometimes, its fun or horny.

but even if life is neutral mostly, its still beats than being dead and not existing.


bingo

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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:21 PM

wonder

As I've posted at the Religion forum, if your life ends at your death,
and that's it, then all this life is pointless. I hesitate to post more in this
forum since it is not the Religion forum and a topic like this soon turns
to the concept of the soul and God.



-Stephen

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Posted 13 January 2007 - 05:45 PM

As I've posted at the Religion forum, if your life ends at your death,
and that's it, then all this life is pointless

Indeed. Which is the reason we want to keep on living, so there will be a point to find.

-Infernity




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