Testosterone sources?

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Posted 18 March 2007 - 11:19 AM

> Chocalate is out of the picture as it's effects as an aphrodisiac seems more myth than fact

Cocoa is a mild stimulant and euphoric, and apparently has a number promising health benefits. Also, there is some evidence that it is increases the amount of bio-available nitric oxide which is critical for vasodilation and hence engorgement of erectile tissue (ahem.) Maybe this is relevant:

http://www.ncbi.nlm....t_uids=14654748

Here's another that suggests that maca works by a similar mechanism (i.e. increased nitric oxide):

http://www.ncbi.nlm....l=pubmed_docsum

Stay away from chocolate (at least as a supplement) as it contains too much sugar and is heavily processed (i.e. it has been through an alkalization process which removes most of the good phytochems.) There is another thread on this board that has a discussion on cocoa sources, etc.

#32 mitkat

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Posted 18 March 2007 - 11:24 AM

And no I would never have her take Yohimbine isn't it a MAOI?

Yohimbine is an alpha-2 antagonist. I really don't know why everyone is so afraid of it. I wouldn't take it chronically, but once in a while I don't see an issue with it.

Well, from what I've heard it causes breathing and heart problems and god knows what. It just seems more like a drug than a supplement.

That's become more of a matter of semantics for me over the past few years. Yohimbine certinaly shouldn't become part of one's stack, but have no fear!

Anyhow back on track, maca seems good I've looked it up and I'll probably be ordering some soon, it seems like it'll make good chocolate too. But then again how effective is Maca? Is there anything else good that should go with it? Chocalate is out of the picture as it's effects as an aphrodisiac seems more myth than fact

Maca is really good stuff. I take it everyday as part of my stack...no complains. I don't know if it gives me testosterone but it certainly has...sexual effects of a sort. I see it as a more light-weight compared to any of the other endocrinal affecting botanicals, which is something I don't want to mess up. http://www.therootofthematter.ca/ is a reliable, high quality and cheap source from the west coast.

#33 spacey

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Posted 18 March 2007 - 11:40 AM

Woah, the Root of the Mattar are you being sarcastic? I have no idea if I can trust that site. Besides it is nearly impossible to understand and navigate through

#34 mitkat

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Posted 18 March 2007 - 12:01 PM

[wis] Actually, I'm not! I know exactly what you think when you see the site....wow...how...terrible. It's like thinking about buying some from illegal-drugs-from-wherever.com. But Ken Johnson is a solid guy and is totally trustworthy, he has several satisfied customers from this site. I believe Pablo M has even been to his house before when he lived in Van City if I recall correctily. He has no sense of web design (obviously) but again, is serious about his botanicals and...yeah - you can trust him.

He keeps his costs low by not hiring a webmaster

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 04:39 AM

Shifter is correct as to trib's mechanism of action. I'm not aware of it having having any aromatase inhibition. But traiditonal libido boosters such as trib, maca, horny goat weed, long jack, etc don't seem to raise testosterone that much or have much of an anabolic effect.

#36 djmmm

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 01:42 PM

try DHEA... it seemed to work for me (increased facial hair growth, muscle mass, decreased fat) It aslo seemed to give me more energy/stamina when working out.

#37 edward

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Posted 21 March 2007 - 03:53 AM

MitKat, what are you daily doses for Maca. Is the product you use standardized?

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